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Zizu 22-05-2024 08:37 PM

Why on earth is Xaby Alonso staying with Levercusan !!??

What’s his thought process I wonder


All the massive opportunities he’s missed out on they’re looking toothless against Atalanta
- 3:0 down

Plus he will probably lose some of his best players to bigger teams in the summer


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James 22-05-2024 08:39 PM

Just found out I can watch this on Discovery+.

They are making it more and more difficult to watch these finals for free.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 09:53 PM

I know I keep moaning on the Football section lately.

But wtf! At what I think was Joe Cole's comment after the match, saying "that's what they call love."

What has happened to Humanity that this is actually deemed acceptable dialogue in what's meant to be a discussion about Atalanta winning the Europa League?

I know that Football Shows have always had the odd daft comment here or there, but the last few years have brought in a whole new world of lameness.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11454115)
What the fek is Southgate waffling on about ‘


You can have too many forwards.. forwards need love and that can be complicated !


I thought he was supposed to be intelligent?


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Southgate said the dreaded words.

They're paid to do a job, they either do it or they don't, and if they don't do it then they should face constructive criticism, it's part and parcel of any job out there.

These players should be receiving love from their family, friends, and the fans should preferably have the player's back if he is playing for their team.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11454613)
how the hell can you fail miserably with Burnley and get the Bayern job??

He is doing a Wayne Rooney.

Failing upwards, even though it was Kompany's woeful tactics that got Burnley relegated.

Nicky91 23-05-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11454665)
Why on earth is Xaby Alonso staying with Levercusan !!??

What’s his thought process I wonder


All the massive opportunities he’s missed out on they’re looking toothless against Atalanta
- 3:0 down

Plus he will probably lose some of his best players to bigger teams in the summer


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in all fairness

Atalanta are a pretty strong team either, from the small place of Bergamo, a solid top 5 team in the Serie A against the bigger city teams from Rome, Turin, Milan

Lookman is a huge talent, could see him leaving for many millions soon i think


Koopmeiners also a amazing tough force in midfield

De Ketelaere back in his good old form, compared to his weak first year at AC Milan, this loan spell does him very good

Scamacca very important up front not just himself scoring goals but also creating scoring opportunities for other players

Kolasinac tough defender (i always liked him, even at Schalke, Arsenal)

Scalvini, a talented defender who is hyped up to be the next Bonucci, Chiellini



Gian Piero Gasperini, i have sympathies for him as well, finally winning a prize, in his 8 years at the club



was a good and enjoyable final, Leverkusen wasn't that bad, but Atalanta were consistently good on every position basically, also they did a good job in blocking Xhaka, Wirtz from getting in their usual strong form



so what not a treble, maybe a double still, on saturday vs Kaiserslautern the cup final


a party on sunday nevertheless ;)

Zizu 23-05-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11454807)
in all fairness

Atalanta are a pretty strong team either, from the small place of Bergamo, a solid top 5 team in the Serie A against the bigger city teams from Rome, Turin, Milan

Lookman is a huge talent, could see him leaving for many millions soon i think


Koopmeiners also a amazing tough force in midfield

De Ketelaere back in his good old form, compared to his weak first year at AC Milan, this loan spell does him very good

Scamacca very important up front not just himself scoring goals but also creating scoring opportunities for other players

Kolasinac tough defender (i always liked him, even at Schalke, Arsenal)

Scalvini, a talented defender who is hyped up to be the next Bonucci, Chiellini



Gian Piero Gasperini, i have sympathies for him as well, finally winning a prize, in his 8 years at the club



was a good and enjoyable final, Leverkusen wasn't that bad, but Atalanta were consistently good on every position basically, also they did a good job in blocking Xhaka, Wirtz from getting in their usual strong form



so what not a treble, maybe a double still, on saturday vs Kaiserslautern the cup final


a party on sunday nevertheless ;)


BayerLev looked tired and lethargic last night

Looks like all those last minute rescue jobs took a toll after all


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Nicky91 23-05-2024 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11454878)
BayerLev looked tired and lethargic last night

Looks like all those last minute rescue jobs took a toll after all


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:conf:

not at all


some moments they just had some bad luck, other moments was proper defending by Atalanta



also where some players might be leaving, the team is quite attractive due to the CL group stage


Frimpong for 40 million probably


new goalkeeper i guess


i wouldn't sell Wirtz for less than 50 or 60 million, same goes for Tah and Andrich, no way these should leave on too low offers tbh



let's give Atalanta more praise than trashtalking on Leverkusen, its long due that they win a big trophy now anyway, idk what it is but they have some magic touch regarding talented youngsters, also Robin Gosens whom became a german international when he played over there too, while before that he was a unknown at heracles almelo


same with Hans Hateboer too (also wasn't from a top dutch team but PEC Zwolle i believe)

bots 24-05-2024 02:34 AM

Harry Kane moved to Bayern to win trophies. 1 season later his manager is going to be the guy who got Burnley relegated from the premier league :joker:

Zizu 24-05-2024 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11455182)
Harry Kane moved to Bayern to win trophies. 1 season later his manager is going to be the guy who got Burnley relegated from the premier league :joker:


They will still be favourites to win the league I bet


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Mystic Mock 24-05-2024 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11454713)
He is doing a Wayne Rooney.

Failing upwards, even though it was Kompany's woeful tactics that got Burnley relegated.

There's honestly no justice in Football.:facepalm:

I could honestly out manage Rooney and Kompany in my sleep, yet they just keep getting offered jobs in big Leagues even though they can't manage for toffee.

And I don't mean it to be nasty (as Kompany seems like a decent guy tbf) but Rooney in particular can't take any responsibility for relegating teams (when it's his fault) and decides to blame the team instead for his failure at understanding the basics of Football tactics.

And listen, I'm no Pep Guardiola, but even I know that you need to do two things as a Football Manager.

1. Have a god damn midfield.

And 2. Play to your players strengths.

Rooney did neither, and couldn't accept that he did neither, therefore he hasn't learned anything positive from his time with us to then improve at Plymouth.

I don't know why I'm getting worked up, Plymouth isn't my team, if they want to get relegated that badly then go for it.

Zizu 24-05-2024 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11455194)
There's honestly no justice in Football.:facepalm:

I could honestly out manage Rooney and Kompany in my sleep, yet they just keep getting offered jobs in big Leagues even though they can't manage for toffee.

And I don't mean it to be nasty (as Kompany seems like a decent guy tbf) but Rooney in particular can't take any responsibility for relegating teams (when it's his fault) and decides to blame the team instead for his failure at understanding the basics of Football tactics.

And listen, I'm no Pep Guardiola, but even I know that you need to do two things as a Football Manager.

1. Have a god damn midfield.

And 2. Play to your players strengths.

Rooney did neither, and couldn't accept that he did neither, therefore he hasn't learned anything positive from his time with us to then improve at Plymouth.

I don't know why I'm getting worked up, Plymouth isn't my team, if they want to get relegated that badly then go for it.


Thing is .. Kompany likes to play from the back ..it was extremely successful and great to watch in the championship ..

Now transfer that style to Bayern’s players who CAN play out from the back and you should have a winning formula


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Mystic Mock 24-05-2024 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11455197)
Thing is .. Kompany likes to play from the back ..it was extremely successful and great to watch in the championship ..

Now transfer that style to Bayern’s players who CAN play out from the back and you should have a winning formula


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Kompany can only do any good when his team is exceptional for the League they're in, that imo isn't a good Manager.

I look at Thomas Frank or David Moyes as examples of Managers that can bring the best out of ordinary teams.

John Eustace last season for Blues when we were everyone's tip to get relegated, and he kept us up with games to spare.

They're good Managers imo, not someone that has to have the best team in the League.

Zizu 24-05-2024 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11455199)
Kompany can only do any good when his team is exceptional for the League they're in, that imo isn't a good Manager.

I look at Thomas Frank or David Moyes as examples of Managers that can bring the best out of ordinary teams.

John Eustace last season for Blues when we were everyone's tip to get relegated, and he kept us up with games to spare.

They're good Managers imo, not someone that has to have the best team in the League.


Like I said

Horses for courses!

They loved the football Pep played and Kompany csn obviously give them that again


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Mystic Mock 24-05-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11455210)
Like I said

Horses for courses!

They loved the football Pep played and Kompany csn obviously give them that again


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I think that Bayern are begging for Levekusen and Stuttgart to be the top 2 again, with Dortmund and Leipzig also above them this time.

Mystic Mock 24-05-2024 07:09 AM

Plus not every team can play Guardiola's style of Football.

That kind of thinking that every team is doing is killing the enjoyment of Football for me.

I remember growing up when Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Benitez, and Allardyce (to name a couple of controversial styles here) all had different ways of approaching the game.

And with Klopp gone next season, the Pep clones are only going to get worse in Football.

bots 24-05-2024 12:04 PM

Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern

Zizu 24-05-2024 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11455330)
Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern


You can’t compare lowly Burnley to the talent of Arsenal and ManC ..

If he had to go against all his principles and played death football like Everton or the other UFC teams he would’ve quit ..

By sticking to his principles he’s earned himself one of the most prestigious jobs in

Who’s laughing now


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Zizu 24-05-2024 01:10 PM

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Mystic Mock 25-05-2024 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11455330)
Kompany failed in the premier league because he couldn't adapt his tactics to the team they are playing. Arteta and Pep tweak their tactics every game, and that's why they continue to be successful. Kompany either doesn't know how to do that or is unwilling to do it. Either way, when you become predictable, the opposition will adapt their tactics to expose your weaknesses and that what will happen to Bayern

I agree with you on that tbf.

It's why I expect another 3rd Place finish for Bayern next season.

Mystic Mock 25-05-2024 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11455336)
You can’t compare lowly Burnley to the talent of Arsenal and ManC ..

If he had to go against all his principles and played death football like Everton or the other UFC teams he would’ve quit ..

By sticking to his principles he’s earned himself one of the most prestigious jobs in

Who’s laughing now


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You play to your players strengths, if that means going "UFC" to win the match then you take that approach.

If you want to be a good Manager anyway.

Zizu 25-05-2024 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11455512)
You play to your players strengths, if that means going "UFC" to win the match then you take that approach.

If you want to be a good Manager anyway.


Well he showed that he’s a strong , principled guy and has won himself a dream job ….


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Zizu 25-05-2024 01:45 PM

The all encompassing FOOTBALL thread !!
 
Great .. FA Cup final

I woke up with this banging sinus headache ..

Switch onto ITV


Two women .. complete unknowns .. waffling .. no .. shrieking on about .. basically nothing .. now ten minutes of bladdy adverts !!


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Zizu 25-05-2024 01:51 PM

The all encompassing FOOTBALL thread !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11455664)
Great .. FA Cup final

I woke up with this banging sinus headache ..

Switch onto ITV


Two women .. complete unknowns .. waffling .. no .. shrieking on about .. basically nothing .. now ten minutes of bladdy adverts !!


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Edit ..

It’s on BBC as well !!

Switched over to the BeeB

Quiet a relief to see Lineker and Rooney plus no adverts !


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Zizu 25-05-2024 01:53 PM

Nice singing by the young lad .. not sure if the woman is doing expressive dance or if she’s ‘signing’ the wordsz - she looks good though

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