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joeysteele 03-11-2023 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11369920)
has Starmer condemned the planned protests on Sunday? I hope so

Do you know what bots.
I've had it now as to Starmer.

It's just a good thing for him that my dislike for this rotten Con government is stronger than my dislike for him.

He shouldn't condemn the planned protests.
Because yes, while we recall the sacrifices made by those who fought in wars with respect to them.

One of the things they also fought for was PEACE.
With what's happening in the middle East again now.
To stop people protesting about this war, would and should be wrong.

People standing like hypocrites, thankful for peace remembering those who fought for peace.
While innocent citizens are being massacred again in war.
Which some people just want brushed under the carpet for a day for pomp and ceremony.

It actually makes me feel sick.

arista 04-11-2023 01:17 AM

BBC News Text:
[The i's weekend edition reports on an
election boost for Labour from an unlikely source.
Former Tory chancellor Ken Clarke has backed
shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves - praising her
"uncompromising" fiscal approach.]



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...13125.png.webp

arista 05-11-2023 08:12 PM

The Leader of Burnley Council
has resigned from the Labour Party.


SkyNewsHD

arista 08-11-2023 06:18 AM

Imran Hussain MP:
Shadow minister Quits Labour Front Bench
over Gaza

[Mr Hussain was the shadow minister for
the New Deal for Working People.
He said he remained committed to Labour's agenda
but that his view on Gaza differed "substantially" from
the position Sir Keir has adopted.

Sir Keir has called for humanitarian pauses
in Gaza but has not supported calls for
a ceasefire at this time.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67353019

joeysteele 08-11-2023 08:51 AM

Fair play to Imran Hussain.

He wants to be able to speak freely on the Middle East conflicts.
The stupid Party rules make in impossible for MPs to do so.
The daft cabinet collective responsibility issue turns humans into Party robots.
Not people with feelings, emotions and integrity.

He still supports all of Labours other agenda.
Not however on the ceasefire issue.
Fair enough.
I say good luck to him.
He must feel a great weight has been lifted off his shoulders.

Wars, bring about division of views, no one MP or otherwise should be forced to not speak from their own thoughts and conscience on the issue of war.
No one.

arista 08-11-2023 09:15 AM

"Fair play to Imran Hussain."

No he is the First Cabinet member to go.

USA and UK demand a Pause
that is far better


Also

"Shadow Minister for
the New Deal for Working People."


He was never on TV news


Good he is out of the cabinet.

joeysteele 08-11-2023 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11377779)
"Fair play to Imran Hussain."

No he is the First Cabinet member to go.

USA and UK demand a Pause
that is far better


Also

"Shadow Minister for
the New Deal for Working People."


He was never on TV news


Good he is out of the cabinet.

Not really.
People with at least some integrity to stand up and say what they really think.
Are far better than backside crawlers.
Like most Cabinet and shadow Cabinet are expected to become.
No matter the leader.

People are calling for MPs to be more honest.
Then the Parties, whip, and collective cabinet responsibility rules strip them of any honesty.

That's part of what's disgracefully wrong in politics

arista 09-11-2023 02:25 AM

BBC News Text:
[Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer is
"battling to reassert his authority"
within his party amid tensions
with some members of his front bench because
of his stance on Gaza.
The paper says four shadow ministers are
prepared to quit "in the coming days" rather
than vote against a ceasefire in the conflict,
while up to 10 others are on
"resignation watch".
It comes after the resignation
of Imran Hussain,
the shadow minister for
the new deal for working people,
over the issue.
Sir Keir has so far refused to back a
ceasefire, saying it would leave
Hamas's infrastructure intact,
and has instead called for a
humanitarian pause to allow aid into Gaza.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...an-nc.png.webp

arista 09-11-2023 10:03 AM

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DemolitionRed 09-11-2023 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11362360)
The problem is that it is a really mixed up conflict. Hamas are holding Israeli hostages, they could release them to help bring about a cease fire

The other thing that i haven't seen anywhere really, is the international law being broken by Hamas by using their own civilians as human shields. Where is the outcry from the Lebanon supporters for that? It's totally ****ed up

The Gaza Strip is being turned to dust, regardless of hostages. Ask yourself this... If Hamas were known to be hiding in Israel with Israeli hostages, would the Israelis carpet bomb Israel in an attempt to kill Hamas?

You do realize that the collective punishments of civilians in Gaza is a war crime. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have and still are committing war crimes.

arista 12-11-2023 08:41 AM

A Labour Brief
has remarked at the Cabinet Member who
left the over Gaza, as shaking off the Fleas.

Spoken on BBC1HD "Laura K." Live

arista 12-11-2023 09:59 AM

New Poll
7-8 Nov 2023 by YouGov

Labour 47% (+15%)
Conservative 23% (-21%)
LibDem 10% (-2%)
Reform UK 8% (+6%)
Green 7% (+4%)


Was debated on Trevor Phillips Live 90mins show
SkyNewsHD

The in Brackets are changes from 2019

fruit_cake 12-11-2023 10:01 AM

just need a few less percentage points for the Tories and they could be wiped from even being official opposition

arista 14-11-2023 10:59 PM

Wednesday 15/11/23

SNP will put a vote in for Cease Fire in Gaza,

If any Labour Front Bench Vote for that
Starmer will Sack them

arista 15-11-2023 03:37 PM

Labour MP Naz Shah (in his cabinet)
backs the SNP Cease Fire Vote


SkyNewsHD Live,

Liam- 15-11-2023 04:01 PM

Imagine being sacked for voting to end the unrelenting murder of innocent civilians and children, Starmer should be shamed and replaced

arista 15-11-2023 06:25 PM

Also Helen Hays MP

Labour Cabinet member,


Ch4HDnews says there are 8 of them

arista 15-11-2023 06:47 PM

Labour MP Jess Phillips Resigns

Part of the Cabinet

arista 15-11-2023 06:52 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-_781dX...g&name=900x900

bots 15-11-2023 07:06 PM

oops

arista 15-11-2023 07:07 PM

9 Labour Front Benchers Resign

SkyNewsHD Live

bots 15-11-2023 07:09 PM

thats going to be a headache

Liam- 15-11-2023 07:13 PM

Starmer is a disgrace

arista 15-11-2023 08:05 PM

10 Labour MP's leave the Front Bench


BBC news

The Slim Reaper 15-11-2023 08:08 PM

Need to get a vote of no confidence on this fcuking ghoulish chancer.


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