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30stone 16-06-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Showtyme
Toure staying put with Barca

Coveted midfielder set to remain at Camp Nou

Yaya Toure is about to end several English clubs' hopes of signing him by putting pen to paper on a new deal at Barcelona, his agent has revealed.

Arsenal, Manchester United and Manchester City have all been linked with a move for the Ivory Coast midfielder, but he is keen to stay with Catalan Treble winners.

Cesc Fabregas stated this week that Toure, who is the brother of Arsenal defender Kolo, would be the ideal signing for the Gunners to bring stability and strength to their midfield, but Arsene Wenger is going to have to look elsewhere.

"He is very happy at Barca and in the city," Toure's representative Dmitri Seluk is quoted as saying by Sport.

Excellent

"The atmosphere within the club is excellent and the team is marvellous and for those reasons he wants to stay and we should have a deal done this week."

The tone is different from the one used by Seluk when he launched a scathing attack on the Blaugrana recently, accusing them of reneging on agreement to help Toure more.

Seluk accused Barca of not looking after Toure properly, while he also accused president Joan Laporta of praising every other player bar his client.


Looks like we wont get Yaya :(

Darn.

He would be great to have in the team.

Jayson 16-06-2009 06:11 PM

Roma eye Boro skipper
Italians consider Pogatetz move

Emanuel Pogatetz's agent claims that Italian giants Roma are keen to sign the Middlesbrough captain.

The Austria international has already stated that he would be willing to stay on at the Riverside to help the club back to the top flight.

But with just one year left on his current deal, a move could be on the cards this summer.

Jurgen Werner has now claimed that he has met with Roma, who are keen on the 26-year-old.

"We had talks with a Roma delegation last week in Karnten," his agent told Kronen Zeitung.

But a deal is not imminent as Pogatetz is getting over a knee operation, although he will be fit for the start of the new season.

"Roma want to wait for him to recover," he added.

"It is understandable that they don't want to buy an injured player."
Bates hope

Meanwhile, Boro boss Gareth Southgate remains hopeful that he can persuade Matthew Bates to remain with the club.

West Ham have already made Bates, who is out of contract in the summer, an offer to leave, while Wigan, Everton and Sunderland are also keeping tabs on the 22-year-old.

But Southgate is still hopeful, saying: "One of my priorities is trying to get Matthew to re-sign for the club.

"In fact, if we can convince him to stay, I would see him as a key signing.

"He has got the right drive, mentality and attitude, the sort of qualities that I want my players to have, plus the football he played for us during the final weeks of the season was enough to make me feel he can have a real impact for us next season.

"He overcame some serious injuries and the time he has spent out of the game seems to have made him hungry to make up for lost time and do well.

"I've been impressed with him and I'd like him to stay here.

"I've had some good discussions with Matthew and with his agent and I think he would like to stay if everything felt right.

"I know he wants to be a leader wherever he plays his football and I think he can fulfil that desire with us. He certainly has excellent leadership qualities.

"Of course he'd like to play Premier League football - and rightly so - but he would also like to help us get back to the Premier League.

"I think ideally he'd like to stay, but I'm not taking anything for granted at this stage."

andyman 16-06-2009 07:47 PM

Fantastic footy news! Great read.:thumbs:

30stone 16-06-2009 07:49 PM

wonder if Merida will get a couple of games next year, show off some potential..

andyman 16-06-2009 07:53 PM

Nah.. It's all about Torres. :thumbs2:

andyman 16-06-2009 07:55 PM

Tevez will be on fire for Man City if he joins them.

30stone 16-06-2009 07:56 PM

Do you only talk about liverpool torres and football that is on.


lol. broaden.


Fran Merida has potential should be a good player in future..



Who of the Arsenal squad do you rate most andyman?

andyman 16-06-2009 08:00 PM

... Erm.. Ian Wright was a good Arsenal player.

30stone 16-06-2009 08:03 PM

Depth of Arsenal knowledge is minimal andyman im very dissapointed.

30stone 16-06-2009 08:21 PM

Out of current team.

Who would you rate most then andyman?

Cwm44 16-06-2009 08:24 PM

cannot believe martinez has left the swans

Ninastar 16-06-2009 08:28 PM

The one good thing about arsenal is that guy who scored the 4 goals against someone a while back.... He is sexy. I love him <3

30stone 16-06-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Ninastar
The one good thing about arsenal is that guy who scored the 4 goals against someone a while back.... He is sexy. I love him <3

One good thing?

You not like young Fabregas ? )=


But Yes Arshavin was amazing against iverpool that night, saying that he has been amazing every game he has played for Arsenal so far.

Ninastar 16-06-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by 30stone
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Originally posted by Ninastar
The one good thing about arsenal is that guy who scored the 4 goals against someone a while back.... He is sexy. I love him <3

One good thing?

You not like young Fabregas ? )=


But Yes Arshavin was amazing against iverpool that night, saying that he has been amazing every game he has played for Arsenal so far.
*Looks up picture....*

Ok. He is nice too :lovedup:

andyman 16-06-2009 08:34 PM

Arsenal are in North London..

Harry! 16-06-2009 08:38 PM

I wish I knew more about football but I don't like it!

andyman 16-06-2009 08:47 PM

Harry you will enjoy the World Cup next year..

Jayson 16-06-2009 08:49 PM

No United bid for Valdes

Keeper continues talks with Barcelona

Victor Valdes' agent has denied claims that Manchester United have made an approach for the Spanish international.

The Barcelona goalkeeper is currently locked in talks with the European champions over a new contract, with just 12 months remaining on his current deal.

Recent reports had suggested that United had made a move for Valdes - but agent Gines Carvajal has stressed that his charge is committed to Barca.

"We don't have any offers and nor are we going to listen to any, wherever they come from, because Victor has a year left on his contract and he owes it to Barcelona," he told Catalan radio station RAC 1.

"We don't want to listen to anything which will distract us from the idea of renewing at Barcelona.

"Our desire is that the situation sorts itself out. As we still have a lot of time, that's where we are."

Carvajal did admit that the two parties were still struggling to agree terms.

"It's complicated, there are differences, because if there weren't then we would have already renewed," he continued.

"Our desire is to continue negotiating. On our part, we are not breaking up any talks and Barca have not told me that they are either."

Jayson 16-06-2009 08:59 PM

Secrets of the fixture computer

Ever wondered why you have had to travel the length of the country on a wet Tuesday night to watch your team in action?

Or you haven't played at home on Boxing Day for the last three years?

Like me, you've probably just blamed the fixture computer, that mythical piece of technology that determines where you will be and when throughout the football season.

I have always imagined it to be some great beast of a machine like bertha, firing out tickertape full of fixtures while some overworked scientist desperately tries to make sense of the information spewing forth.

The fixtures for the 2009-2010 season are released at 1000 BST on Wednesday and last week I spoke to some of the key people involved in the formation of the schedule.

I wanted to find out exactly how the fixture list is put together and just how difficult a job it is. Needless to say, I spent a large chunk of last weekend in a dark and cool room as my brain tried to come to terms with its most serious case of information overload since I asked my wife to point out my most obvious flaws.

Putting the fixture list together is incredibly complex - with a whole series of factors ensuring it is an increasingly difficult task.

Just to give you one example; every club is paired with another in regard to when they play their home and away fixtures. This is done for a number of reasons, one being so that clubs like Everton and Liverpool do not play at home on the same weekend.

West Ham, it turns out, are paired with Dagenham and Redbridge. But for reasons of revenue Southend request they do not play at home on the same day as the Hammers as they believe it impacts upon their attendance.Football League fixtures officer Paul Snellgrove, Glenn Thompson of Atos Origin and FSF president Ian Todd with the actual fixtures computer

Southend, though, are in Essex, as are Colchester, so they cannot play together on the same weekend. Colchester share stewards with Ipswich so those two clubs also request they do not play home games on the same weekend. Transport links dictate Ipswich and Norwich do not play together on the same weekend either. In other words, when West Ham play at home can have an impact on when a club as far away as Norwich (108.8 miles) play their home fixtures. And there are 12 other professional clubs in London....

Confused? Read on and I guarantee you will be.

The compilation of the fixture list is done jointly between the Premier League and the Football League. The whole process starts upwards of a year in advance when Fifa and Uefa release their match calendars but work starts in earnest in the final months of the previous season.

The Football League, for example, sends out a questionnaire to all their clubs in March. This is a club's opportunity to request specific dates they would like to avoid and what other team they would like to be paired with. The questionnaire is jointly signed off by the police and also reflects their concerns - issues such as ensuring high-profile matches do not clash with big events in a city.

During this time the main man in the process - Glenn Thompson of Atos Origin, an international IT services company, - starts the process he describes as sequencing.

For most of the year Glenn works as an IT professional in Scotland but he has been compiling the fixtures since the 1993-94 season and describes the task both as an enormous puzzle and his summer job. He is the man who owns the laptop that is the fixture computer.

Sequencing involves mapping out on what days all the fixtures will take place and the pattern of home and away games that a team will play.

There are rules governing sequencing - for example clubs will play no more than two home games consecutively and, with one eye on the financial situation at lower league clubs, the games either side of an FA Cup fixture should not both be away from home.

But slotting all the fixtures into the calendar is becoming more and more difficult.

Paul Snellgrove is the Football League fixtures officer. I get the impression he is a very amiable man but mention the fixture calendar and it quickly becomes obvious this is a complicating factor in his life.

The increase in European club competition fixtures - with the inaugural Europa League next season - is eating into the available space; as are international friendlies and World Cup qualifiers. Next season is followed by the World Cup so the campaign ends early. The Champions League final next season takes place on a Saturday, eating into another weekend when Premier League fixtures cannot be played.

Out of necessity, next season's play-off finals are split across two weekends, with the Championship finale taking place on the same day as the Champions League final.

There are 10 rounds of midweek Championship fixtures to squeeze in, six for League One and League Two and four in the Premier League. Then you have the FA Cup, the Carling Cup and the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

The process of sequencing took Thompson 10 days this year - and once the season finished he plotted his pairings into a grid and started wading through the lists of requests from the clubs and the police. Snellgrove estimated there were about 90 this year from the Premier and Football League clubs, while on average Thompson reckons about 80% of the home and away requests are accommodated.

He also manually creates the fixtures for Boxing Day and 28 December to try to minimise the travelling distance for fans. As Thompson readily admits, the computer has no concept of the distance between grounds.

Once the sequencing and plotting was finished - are you still with me here? - Thompson fed all the information into the programme on his laptop. The methodology was created in 1982 and was updated a decade ago. Way back when the computer was a desktop based in Wilmslow and compiling a division's fixtures was an overnight job. These days it can knock out a division in 5-10 minutes.

Five days after the Championship play-off final Thompson produced his first draft of the fixtures. From that moment onwards it was all a case of refinement, refinement, refinement, with Thompson returning to his computer 30-40 times to try to improve his list.

These might include issues such as potentially sensitive fixtures being played on the opening or final weekends of the season and derby fixtures taking place in midweek.

As Snellgrove puts it: "There is a huge amount of information crunched - by the time the fixtures actually come out the original list has been changed goodness knows how many times."

At this stage only Thompson sees the list, as he adjusts and tweaks it until he comes up with a calendar that he is happy to take to the Premier League and the Football League.

Last Wednesday, Thompson headed to Preston where he met with both the governing bodies - and a further process of refinement took place over the following days.

Thompson reckons he does the job because he enjoys it and derives great satisfaction from producing a body of work that has a very tangible end product. But it must be an agonising, head-scratching process that slowly strips you of the will to live.

For instance, every time a fixture is changed it affects at least seven other fixtures and can easily impact on as many as 48.manutdnew595.jpg

Ian Todd is the president of the Football Supporters' Federation and sits on the fixtures working party that meets to discuss Thompson's list. One year he objected to Morecambe playing at Dagenham and Redbridge in midweek. They tried to alter the fixture but found out that it would negatively impact on so many other games that what Todd calls "the least worst option" was to maintain the status quo.

The fixtures working party met last Saturday to discuss this year's calendar. In addition to Todd, Thompson and Snellgrove, the Premier League and Football Association are represented as well as people from the top flight, Championship, League One and League Two clubs.

Todd estimates he has between 30-45 minutes to scan the fixtures and point out any concerns that might impact negatively on supporters.

Monday involves a meeting with various police chiefs and the British Transport Police. Again, there are potential issues here that had never crossed my mind. They look at potential logistical problems such as whether there will be too many fans from different clubs all heading to one train station in London for a particular set of fixtures on any given weekend.

On Tuesday the list will be signed off and on Wednesday morning we will all see the fruits of a lot of hard work.

Not everyone will be happy but Snellgrove is confident that if certain clubs' requests have not been accommodated then at least he will be able to explain why.

Thompson sometimes has nightmares about the job but always hopes to produce a list that is balanced and neutral. He reckons this year's list will not be the best they have produced but will be far from the worst.

The story doesn't end there.

Over the following week Snellgrove will deal with requests by clubs to switch days. Clubs cannot move a game away from an allocated weekend but they can switch the day of the match. Cheltenham, for example, often play a home game on a Friday when there is a clash with the horse racing festival.

Thompson will start dealing with reserve fixtures, academy games and feeder leagues to the Blue Square Premier.

This year when I see some ridiculous fixtures my club have been asked to play I hope I show a little bit more understanding. Though I seriously doubt it.




You deserve a medal if you read all that, Lol

Ninastar 16-06-2009 09:00 PM

Weee.
So is there any good matches on this week???

andyman 16-06-2009 09:06 PM

Yeah! The live footy is back on BBC3 tomorrow..

Ahhh yeah Jayson! 10am new fixtures! Woohoo! Sky sports news.

30stone 16-06-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
Arsenal are in North London..
lol.


Whos your favourite player from the squad?

Harry! 16-06-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by andyman
Harry you will enjoy the World Cup next year..
Somehow that is the only thing I like about fottball.

Jayson 16-06-2009 10:20 PM

Anyone been watching the U21's?
Ive completeley forgotten every match so far.

30stone 16-06-2009 10:22 PM

Watching italy now, recorded it.


I only enjoy watching england u21's because i know them


and if merida was in u21's for spain id watch.


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