It's about time men are given recognition for the same issues women face in regards to these matters.

There is such an imbalance.

I hope more men can come forward on the belief that they will be believed and you don't have to just suffer on silence because you're a man and are suppose to be strong, not talk about your feelings.

I find it disgusting that a tv station is dedicating so much time to allow an abuser to continue publicly abusing and defaming her victim, it’s awful but again like I said before, it’s the advantage of being a woman, because you can be certain that if Johnny has lost the case, he wouldn’t have been invited on to continue telling his side.

He needs to think about getting a restraining order tbh, she is obviously obsessed with him and having someone that clearly disturbed being determined to continue to harass you can become even more torturous than she’s already been to him, he’s actually trying to move on with his life after having his name cleared and she doesn’t like him not even slightly acknowledging her, she’ll never leave him alone and that’s incredibly worrying

I hope they don't come forward without at least 10 witnesses and years of physical evidence, or they'll get sued. Right?

She wrote one OpEd that didn't even specifically name him after they had separated for years.

"She is obsessed with him and cannot stand to be out of his thoughts for one second and he needs a restraining order in case she murders him!!!"

:joker: give your head a little wobble Liam.

Inside the twisted MRA mindset of a Depp truther :joker:

https://i.imgur.com/B9CMuu2.png

Also, notice that during the trial she acted absolutely horrified when Camille said she wanted to be seen as a victim, ‘ive never said I’m a victim!!’ because she wanted to seem humble and put together and now that she’s lost and needs to cling to any semblance of relevancy and sympathy from the ‘believe all women despite all evidence and facts, no matter the cost’ horde, she now very happily refers to herself as a victim because it’s convenient to tying to rebuild her nuclear reputation, it’s so transparent it’s painful

It hasn't stopped hundreds of women doing so already.

She admitted it was about him. Who else was it about then?

I think she is obsessed with him, she's admitted she's still in love with him and feels no bad for him. Did you listen to any of the audio recordings? Where he wanted space and yet she kept coming for him? Saying to him you don't escape the fight, you escape the solution.

Agreed.

Yeah Camille definitely struck a nerve then, she got bit angry.

She massively wants to be believed. She would have been sensible to wait at least 6 months and then do an interview of she felt it necessary. She has just added fuel to an already huge fire.

Sorry but the whole ‘it didn’t even name him!’ Thing is such a disingenuous argument, she was sued for defamation by implication, she didn’t have to use his name, because it was written to be obvious who she was referring to, without specifically naming him like come on

I didn't say it wasn't about him or that it means it wasn't grounds for the defamation suit (my argument against the defamation case is that for something to be defamation it has to be false, and I believe that Johnny Depp is an aggressive drunk who likes to kick and hit objects and people).

I brought it up as a counter to your absolutely ludicrous suggestion that he needs a restraining order against her because she might come after him, like the plot of a low-budget soap opera :laugh:. Illustrative of the bizarre logical leaps made by Depp truthers, as I posted above.

She’s proving everything Dr. Curry said about her and her diagnosis to be correct in real time, she’s behaving exactly like Curry said someone with her diagnosis is highly likely to, it’s a shame that certain people are so deeply buried in their dogma that they’d rather put all facts aside to relentlessly stand by their points than admit when someone does something wrong and needs proper help.

And if there's anything that really serves as outright proof in a DV case, it's a mega-pint of junk Armchair Psychology clumsily gleaned from a paid expert witness.

Clumsily?

I found her to be extremely intelligent, articulate and knew her job inside out. Whereas the other one didn't even administer the tests properly.

I’d take a psych analysis from a paid witness with a massive pinch of salt in the first place - a courtroom is CLEARLY no place for any sort of “diagnosis” to be taking place, I’m sure you’ll agree. It’s also not an actual diagnosis it’s observational guesswork; not something that will appear anywhere on her medical records, and thus it is not an official diagnosis.

But no, when I said “clumsily gleaned” I was talking about Liam’s clumsy armchair interpretation of the already-suspect expert witness statement.

Would this fake and false person you can spot a mile away by their actions be the same bi polar disordered person you could spot by their actions a mile away just a few pages back?

Diagnosis, psychological diagnosis are observational guesswork. That's why a lot of tests include 'observational' in them for example DISCO and ADOS in regards to autism diagnosis for example. Psychological disorders are subjective based on the assessor although they try to minimise this as much as possible. It's not like a broken arm, which isn't just observational it's physically visible through sight, both looking and x-ray.

Yes, a big pinch of salt but I just found Dr Curry very credible in what she was saying whether it be true or not...as in she knows her onions

Remind me who you're referring to?

I wonder where he got that idea from [emoji848]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jamie-...age&source=TDB

"Legal abuse" is sadly nothing new but yes it's going to become even more common now that abusive men have seen how easy it was to shame, ridicule and abuse Amber Heard via the courts and social media.

A horribly common tactic for abusive men to use against their ex-partners is to start legal proceedings around things like finances or child access... not because they think they even have any chance of winning... but purely because they know it'll make them anxious and upset.

It's not a new concept.

If you have the money to afford the legal costs if someone has defamed you and you have evidence to the contrary then you are entitled to do so.

Most can't afford it though or would want to go through the stress of it.

Are you pretending to believe that Jamie Spears didn't get the idea to pursue Britney for defamation from the extremely-high-profile Depp/Heard court case?

It doesn't have to be a "new concept" for him to have gotten the idea from that - to have been emboldened by the outcome, and to have seen the social media effect of it on Amber Heard.

I think probably you do know that.

...THANKFULLY in this case I think what Jamie Spears has failed to consider is that he is NOT by any stretch of imagination charismatic pirate rogue Johnny Depp, and Britney Spears has been adopted as a darling of the zeitgeist who will be protected at all costs.

His optics on social media will be absolutely awful.

Which, really, highlights what a farce the whole thing is. You can predict the outcome before one word is uttered based purely on the popularity of the participants.

with jamie spears it was 100% predictable that he would try something after he lost his cash cow

The stretching to blame Johnny Depp for women getting sued in completely irrelevant situations is sending me, I think it’s time some people take a step away from the internet and let their brains cool down for a bit

You don't think a successful high profile defamation lawsuit is likely to prompt further defamation lawsuits? Or are you just pretending to believe that. It's not about "blaming Johnny Depp" per se it's not really Johhny Depp's fault that this is possible, however, his case did prove that it IS possible. The fault lies more with the crappy Virginia court system that entertained this nonsense in the first place than with Depp himself. If it had been chucked out of court before going to trial, as it should have been, that would have sent a message to the likes of Jamie Spears and Brad Pitt with his grapes, that they shouldn't waste their time. Instead the message they got was the opposite. Validation of their toxic MRA nonsense.

No I'm not pretending. Just saying it's not a new concept.

MRA is your favourite subject. If I got a pound everytime you mentioned it I would be rich now.

I actually think if it gives a platform to others who have been abused to speak out then it's a good thing.

It's not the case with Jamie spears