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Nicky91 14-04-2021 09:06 AM

Netherlands: Lagging Dutch Covid vaccine figures suddenly revised up by 19%

In a significant revision to Covid-19 vaccination figures, Dutch public health agency RIVM said that the country managed to administer 19 percent more vaccine doses over the past three months than previously estimated. It effectively added hundreds of thousands of jabs to the Dutch vaccination total. The new RIVM model also estimated that another 116,552 jabs were administered on Monday, pushing the total to over 3.9 million.

The revision was issued less than an hour after a press conference with Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Hugo de Jonge wrapped up. During that event, De Jonge touted the 3.9 million figure, even as data submitted by the Health Ministry to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) was lower by about 700 thousand.

The RIVM claimed that the data discrepancy was due to a larger number of vaccinations given by general practitioners and at hospitals or care facilities. The RIVM also changed its model to retroactively account for a one percent rate of spillage, instead of assuming five percent of vaccine doses are wasted as it had expected.

The revised estimate said that the country administered 3,783,912 through Sunday. Nearly three million of these were a person's first injection, and over 800 thousand were a second dose.

If accurate, that would mean that 20.5 percent of the adult population has been at least partially vaccinated, and about six percent were fully inoculated against Covid-19. The first figure was far higher than the data most recently submitted to the ECDC, and the fully-vaccinated total was slightly lower.

It would put the Netherlands near the top of European standings for uptake of the first dose, and near the bottom for those fully vaccinated.

The correction effectively added 601 thousand to last week's vaccination tally, which rose to 919,926 as a result. It was not clear how much of this occurred last week, or at an earlier date. That total far surpassed an initial projection of 630 thousand, and an updated figure of about 430 thousand. During the press conference, De Jonge said the real figure was close to 630 thousand.

Earlier on Tuesday, a RIVM spokesperson told NL Times that the agency was struggling to keep up with the amount of vaccination data it was receiving. She also confirmed the RIVM was changing its model to estimate the number of vaccine doses given.

It was the second major alteration to the official figures since the Dutch vaccination campaign began on January 6. The RIVM has not provided complete raw data on the vaccine program since its start.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/04/13/laggin...nly-revised-19

arista 14-04-2021 03:52 PM

People vaccinated up to and including 13 April 2021

First dose: 32,326,604

Second dose: 8,170,081


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Beso 14-04-2021 03:59 PM

I ain't had my vaccine yet...My appontment was in scotland on monday.

arista 14-04-2021 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11033779)
I ain't had my vaccine yet...My appontment was in scotland on monday.


If you are in England you can Phone up for an Appointment.

Beso 14-04-2021 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11033782)
If you are in England you can Phone up for an Appointment.

I can walk in anytime I want..I could have gotten it done at the crystal palace football stadium 2 weeks ago but I still had 3 jobs to do so left it safe in the knowledge that I can just walk up to a centre and they will do it there and then.

arista 14-04-2021 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11033783)
I can walk in anytime I want..I could have gotten it done at the crystal palace football stadium 2 weeks ago but I still had 3 jobs to do so left it safe in the knowledge that I can just walk up to a centre and they will do it there and then.


Thats Great.

Cherie 15-04-2021 10:24 AM

The EU are considering not using AZ or Janssen vaccines due to clotting issues

Heard this on LBC but can't find a link

Vanessa 15-04-2021 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11034085)
The EU are considering not using AZ or Janssen vaccines due to clotting issues

Heard this on LBC but can't find a link

Oh well, more for us :laugh:

Vicky. 15-04-2021 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11034085)
The EU are considering not using AZ or Janssen vaccines due to clotting issues

Heard this on LBC but can't find a link

Thought the EU had decided the clotting thing wasnt linked..
after much publicizing of the clotting issue. I expect now, too many are scared of it after all the bloody publicity.

Coming soon 'flu vaccine causes dementia, as 100 people diagnosed within a year of recieving jab!'

arista 15-04-2021 01:19 PM

France is Going ahead with One Shot USA Vaccine
Johnson & Johnson


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Cherie 15-04-2021 01:20 PM

The risk of developing a rare brain clot from Covid-19 is about eight times greater than vaccination with the AstraZeneca-Oxford jab, according to a new study.
Researchers at the University of Oxford, who are not linked to the vaccine, also found that people infected with coronavirus are “manyfold times” more likely than normal to develop the rare clotting disorder, known as cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT), where blood clots in the veins that run from the brain.
“There’s no doubt that Covid is a much greater risk of this [condition] than any of the vaccines,” said Professor Paul Harrison, a co-author of the study.
The research, which has yet to be peer-reviewed, drew comparisons between more than 500,000 Covid-19 patients in the US and 34 million people in Europe who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine, as well as the background level of CVT in the general population.

The independant

Cherie 15-04-2021 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 11034123)
Thought the EU had decided the clotting thing wasnt linked..
after much publicizing of the clotting issue. I expect now, too many are scared of it after all the bloody publicity.

Coming soon 'flu vaccine causes dementia, as 100 people diagnosed within a year of recieving jab!'

That was the EMA who are the drug regulatory body who are being ignored

Nicky91 15-04-2021 01:32 PM

UK's vaccinated people aren't protected against the newer brazilian strain i think

Vicky. 15-04-2021 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11034159)
The risk of developing a rare brain clot from Covid-19 is about eight times greater than vaccination with the AstraZeneca-Oxford jab, according to a new study.

Well yeah quite. Seems utterly ridiculous t be continuing with the scaremongering really. So, the EMA have said no link, various studies have show no link, the worlds experts on the condition have also said there is no link...Ontop of this, covid can cause the condition, and is more likely to do so

I expect flying is WAY up there with clotting too. But those who wont have the vaccine 'because clots' will no doubt still be fine flying, or taking the pill/.other meds..and such. Just really ****ing weird, and irresponsible at this stage too

Yet..press and the EU seem determined to make out there is this huge danger with certain vaccines for some reason . Hmm.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11034166)
UK's vaccinated people aren't protected against the newer brazilian strain i think

Am sure that ones already done the rounds in our press...and there were the expected 'this mutation makes vaccination pointless!!!!" type headlines, that when you read on tend to say there are investigations just to check the vaccine works on it or something.

Almost like some want there to be a strain that can avoid the vaccine really. When we are a bit ****ed if some strains are not affected by the vaccine, as the vaccine WAS our only way out of this. And eternal lockdwon is obviously not possible either.

bots 15-04-2021 04:47 PM

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she was "glad" she had the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, amid concerns about rare cases of blood clots.

"There have been concerns raised and I said that I'm confident it's safe, but now I'm not just saying that, I've also had the AstraZeneca vaccine," she said.

Ms Sturgeon praised the "well-oiled machine" at the SSE Hydro in Glasgow and urged others to get vaccinated when they are invited.

"I guess like many people I felt quite emotional because it's so important this vaccination programme in helping us all get back to normal," she said.

Nicky91 15-04-2021 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 11034175)
Well yeah quite. Seems utterly ridiculous t be continuing with the scaremongering really. So, the EMA have said no link, various studies have show no link, the worlds experts on the condition have also said there is no link...Ontop of this, covid can cause the condition, and is more likely to do so

I expect flying is WAY up there with clotting too. But those who wont have the vaccine 'because clots' will no doubt still be fine flying, or taking the pill/.other meds..and such. Just really ****ing weird, and irresponsible at this stage too

Yet..press and the EU seem determined to make out there is this huge danger with certain vaccines for some reason . Hmm.


Am sure that ones already done the rounds in our press...and there were the expected 'this mutation makes vaccination pointless!!!!" type headlines, that when you read on tend to say there are investigations just to check the vaccine works on it or something.

Almost like some want there to be a strain that can avoid the vaccine really. When we are a bit ****ed if some strains are not affected by the vaccine, as the vaccine WAS our only way out of this. And eternal lockdwon is obviously not possible either.

''only way'' well only if you want to go back to old normal, but do we want to go back to old normal, our old ways and repeating everything all over again for another pandemic to happen

or should we go towards new normal, when you have two choices, either freedom via vaccinating or freedom via negative testing, since the test events work (yes some of those fearmongering ones can say testing isn't accurate or some rubbish like that) but negative test is good, and when you only have people with negative tests in a group event, it can be considered ''safe'' but more social distancing just out of precaution what test volunteers overall also do, or downloading the corona warn app just for extra safety (not necessary but something extra is always good)


i won't vaccinate, but i'm not going on holidays in other countries just in own country and with already extra good hygiene ourselves :laugh: even before this whole coronacrisis, as for socializing i have never been great at that so lucky me i guess

LaLaLand 15-04-2021 07:00 PM

My Dad’s had his second jab this morning, two weeks earlier than scheduled so they’re speeding ahead here it seems. (Wales)

Nicky91 17-04-2021 02:06 PM

Netherlands total of doses administered (combined of first and second dose)

4.4 million

Nicky91 17-04-2021 02:07 PM

good we are slowly getting there, the more doses we give, that should make ICU numbers go down faster too hopefully soon

Zizu 17-04-2021 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 11034289)
My Dad’s had his second jab this morning, two weeks earlier than scheduled so they’re speeding ahead here it seems. (Wales)



Interesting


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Nicky91 18-04-2021 03:23 PM

Netherlands total of vaccinated as of today (includes both first and second dose) 4.5 million

arista 18-04-2021 04:48 PM

Vaccine Wars
Jonathan Pie: Gives his Anger (Rated 18)


Vicky
Ideal for you madame


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bJEdcmpx98

Nicky91 19-04-2021 01:38 PM

Netherlands: as of 19 April 2021

per 100 adults there have been 34 jabs administered, with these statistics Netherlands is middle of the board in Europe as for vaccine rollout

Nicky91 20-04-2021 12:54 PM

Germany doing well as for vaccine rollout now

21.9 million people total vaccinated now

16.4 million first dose total

5.5 million second dose total

as of yesterday (what i saw last night on RTLde text page)

Vanessa 20-04-2021 01:27 PM

Im hoping that Europe will have vaccinated enough people soon.
That should help to bring their numbers down.


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