No I still want to discuss it, its just that in my view it is pretty much two separate stories both not particularly newsworthy, connecting to produce this worldwide front page story.

Prank calls are not new and neither are people committing suicide, however the unfortunate timing makes this an unusual story, one in which I cannot believe these radio presenters could possibly have thought this type of tragedy would result from a phone call and as such there must be a limit to the amount of public remorse they are expected to show.

Prank calls do not usually result in someones death , this could never have been anticipated and as such I think the two presenters who will have to live with this for the rest of their lives should exit stage left and the family of the woman should be left to grieve in peace.

It's a terrible tragedy but it's senseless to lay the blame at the DJ's feet. They are obviously being made scapegoats by the higher ups that authorised the prank's broadcast without permission. Why blame the monkey when it's mainly the Organ Grinder's fault?

It's cold I know but I struggle to feel sorry for this woman, I remember hearing a good quote from a film or a TV show once when one character wanted to sacrifice themselves and another character said something like 'Death doesn't happen to you, it happens to everyone around you.' It's her family that will have to live with the loss, two children will have to grow up without a mother. It's her family that I feel sorry for, They're the ones who are suffering now.

Lets forget the fact this was a prank call and look at the wider issue

This private hospital, (Not NHS but Private) had a high profile patient, it may have been a royal, but it could easily have been a pop star, film star, footballer etc.

The hospital had a duty of care to protect their patient.

Now I have worked in one place where they had posters warning to be wary of calls from the public, on the grounds they might be journalists. Later on if we were ever called by them we were all instructed to pass them on to our equivalent of a press office.

Getting back to this hospital, they should have realised that with a high profile VIP then aspects of the media would have tried it on to get a scoop on the others. (This call could very well have been a journalist lying their way to get a Pulitzer prize or spoil any exclusive that could have been signed up to.) This private hospital should have had adequate gate keepers to keep out these media hounds. A nurse "covering" the phones does not cut it. They are not trained to smell a rat or a journalist trying it on.

The hospital failed in their duty of care to the Duchess of Cambridge and their staff.

Journalists and DJ's will do what they do, so why blame them for doing their job. If part of their function was to "entertain" with these sort of calls, (Not my cup of tea), then they were doing their job. If the station has any culpability it lies further up the chain, since the procedure to obtain permissions may not have been followed.

The majority of the blame lies with the hospital, and they are trying to deflect attention from their culpability.

As for the nurse, if she felt she had betrayed one of her patients then she could very well have felt that the only honourable thing to do was to pay for her betrayal with her life. She was from over seas, so we do not know what their concepts of honour are.

All of this^

There are people who want to use the DJs as targets. I watched their interview on Sky News and they were genuinely distressed. Obviously anyone in their shoes would feel awful about the situation. But, nobody could have foreseen the outcome.

I'm no psychiatrist, but I'm pretty sure anyone who takes their own life is not in a good place mentally.

I fail to see how she could reach that place simply from the pressure of a mistake (and let's not forget she did make a mistake) at work.

I reckon there's more to this story, and to this woman. She was a devout catholic as far as I'm aware, and we all know how suicide is viewed by the catholic church.

A lot of people want to point the finger at the DJs, and for that reason they'll pick apart every little thing they do.

But, the bottom line is this... It doesn't matter which hospital you work in, or who the patient is.. you DO NOT EVER give out patient information on the telephone. That much is made clear at interview stage.

So, how a woman who worked in a hospital which cared for such high profile patients did not know this basic rule is beyond me.

Thanks... Good post , you said pretty much what I wanted to express in my earlier posts...!!!

Morrissey has slammed the British royal family following the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha.

The singer labelled Prince William and Kate "arrogant" in the aftermath of the King Edward Hospital nurse's suspected suicide.

Nurse Jacintha Saldanha was found dead last week after transferring a call in which Australian DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian pretended to be Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles to gain medical details about the hospitalised Duchess of Cambridge.

The former Smiths frontman called for the royal couple to show remorse for the incident, and that the blame should not be solely placed on the DJs.

He told New Zealand's 3News: "Even with the recent story about the nurse killing herself in King Edward Hospital, there's no blame placed on Kate Middleton, who was in the hospital as far as I could see for absolutely no reason.

"She feels no shame about the death of this woman, she's saying nothing about the death of this poor woman. The arrogance of the British royals is staggering, absolutely staggering. And why it's allowed to be I really don't know."

He added that the duchess's reported morning sickness was not worth a hospital visit, saying: "Does she have a health condition...? What is the health condition?

"I mean morning sickness already? So much hoo haw and then suddenly as bright as a button as soon as this poor woman dies she's out of hospital? It doesn't ring true.

"And I'm sure the Palace and Clarence House put maximum pressure on this poor receptionist and nurse, and of course that's kept away from the press.

"I'm sure the British press hounded this poor woman to her death, that's kept away. And by this time next week she'll be forgotten. And that's how the British royals work."

Australian radio station 2Day FM have announced that they will donate ad revenue to the family of Jacintha Saldanha.

Morrissey has criticised the British royal family for many years, recently describing Prince Harry as "an idiot".

He caused controversy earlier this year by comparing the London 2012 Olympics to Nazi Germany.


Digital Spy


Oh shut the fu.ck up Morrissey. Whilst I agree that the press have to take some blame in the cause of her death, I fail to see what crimes Kate and William have committed? Any excuse for a royal bashing...

Well that's just stupid, kate should feel guilty for having been in hospital? wtf

Kate is a victim in this as well

What an utter dipstick he is,as if Kate should shoulder any blame,she was ill,maybe he needs some publicity,who does he think he is?

"Morrissey has slammed the British royal family following the death of nurse"


Typical of him

wouldthis even be a story if it wasnt connected with the monarchy

Obviously not, I doubt the radio station would have played a prank on a normal person, wouldn't exactly gain any interest from their viewers

Moz knocking it out the park once again. What a guy.

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What a nob

Yes, because that's what people do don't they? Go into hospital for no reason. :rolleyes:

Is he a medical professional now, making a diagnosis on someone he's never even met?

I listened to the prank call and can't believe THIS caused their radio station to be suspended. It was a light-hearted prank, nothing malicious about it.

This leads me to believe that either the nurse had other issues that really were the cause or the royals had her wacked and made it look like a suicide. Either way I thought the "prank" was funny.

hahahahahaha

Someone's been watching too many Scorcese movies..

Well I will ask once again , where was royal security? Let's see if this gets deleted.

I will reiterate forget that the call was a prank call. What if it had been a journalist on a trashy tabloid trying to get a story to scoop the others and got through. What would the reaction be then?

The hospital failed big time because they did not have an adequate gatekeeper in place. A nurse, not trained for that is not sufficient. They are blaming others for their own failings. It matters not that it was a royal, it could have been another celeb, they still failed.

Why isn't Morrissey dead yet

Why would that be deleted? Mods wouldn't delete that.

The Queen is actually a mod though, she goes by the name of Vicky...don't tell anyone I told you ;)

According to Morrissey, The Queen is dead. :wink:

I actually feel pretty dirty. I think I might have accidentally stuck up for the mods then.

Don't tell anyone.

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