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GypsyGoth 25-02-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5857480)
I've no idea where this assumption of a pansexual vs bisexual war has arisen from as it's nothing like that, "pansexuals" have a right to defend there feelings - that no one else possesses, but themselves. No one's hinting any discrimination from all bisexuals (again stereotyping).

Pansexuals are not under attack, and never have been, as far as I'm aware there never has been a struggle by pansexuals in society. And no one is saying that people who identify themselves as pansexuals shouldn't feel a certain way or should.

LemonJam 25-02-2013 11:42 PM

-throws eggs at the pansexual's houses-

Patrick 25-02-2013 11:48 PM

I'm Straight, but I find some guys hot - and have no problem saying that. Weird thing is, although I find them hot - the thought of even touching a lad would make me vomit.

lostalex 25-02-2013 11:53 PM

I know a lot of people who label themselves as pansexual/bisexual/genderqueer/ asexual that actually are just gay. they just don't want to be called gay because of all the negative stereotypes about gay people, so they think it sounds better to call themselves anything other than gay.

I'm not saying all people who use those other terms are doing that, but a lot of them are. Almost every gay person i've ever met went through a phase of telling people they were bisexual before they came out as gay.

Personally I don't care what people want to label themselves as. Whatever makes you happy.

Jack_ 25-02-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5857520)
I know a lot of people who label themselves as pansexual/bisexual/genderqueer/ asexual that actually are just gay. they just don't want to be called gay because of all the negative stereotypes about gay people, so they think it sounds better to call themselves anything other than gay.

I'm not saying all people who use those other terms are doing that, but a lot of them are. Almost every gay person i've ever met went through a phase of telling people they were bisexual before they came out as gay.

There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

lostalex 26-02-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5857528)
There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

Actually they are just as representative as anyone else. Obviously everyone is an individual, so no one can represent any large group of people more than anyone else.

Mystic Mock 26-02-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5857528)
There lies your problem. Your circle of friends and peers is not representative of the population of the world's bi, asexual and pansexual community, hence why the bit in bold doesn't really have much factual basis.

Tbf I think Lostalex made a fair and reasonable post, as he does have a point that some people do lie about their sexuality, but obviously not all of them.

Jack_ 26-02-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5857520)
Personally I don't care what people want to label themselves as. Whatever makes you happy.

Just noticed this. Kudos to you for respecting and being sensitive towards other people's feelings, that's all people need to be :love:

MTVN 26-02-2013 12:04 AM

Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

Redway 26-02-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5857531)
Actually they are just as representative as anyone else.

You make some good points and I would generally agree with the gist of your post, just that I'm slightly with Jack_ on this one. Personal experience isn't really a valid barometer on which to form nationally representative statements, but you're definitely right in saying that some people do substitute their homosexuality for other terms.

reece(: 26-02-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5857537)
Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

Mystic Mock 26-02-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5857537)
Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

Agreed, it's only this thread that's helped me out to distinguish Bisexuality and Pansexuality.

Redway 26-02-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5857542)
Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.

MTVN 26-02-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5857542)
Yes but there's a fine line between confusion and just down right disrespect/harsh judgement.

Don't think anyone was being deliberately disrespectful or anything, the posts in this thread alone show how difficult a term it is to define though and one that not everyone will agree on

Jack_ 26-02-2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5857537)
Eh I think people can overcomplicate sexuality sometimes, plus pansexuality is quite an obscure concept that the majority of people aren't familiar with it at all, it's understandable that people might express confusion at the need to distinguish it from bisexuality

There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing confusion, enquiring, taking an interest in an issue, it's healthy. As I've already said, I find sexuality as a whole fascinating and in particular asexuality. But that doesn't give people the right to pass insulting judgements about other people's preferences and identity choices, let's not forget these are deep-rooted personal feelings people are experiencing, it's hard enough as it is already without people with no understanding whatsoever making insulting remarks. It's just ignorant.

reece(: 26-02-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5857548)
I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.

Yes but stereotyping as a hipster or wanting to be different can be taken the wrong way as well as all the jokey posts, I've for ages struggled with my feelings (still do) and it just doesn't help. And I'm not looking for sympathy, just a little respect.

Jack_ 26-02-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5857555)
Don't think anyone was being deliberately disrespectful or anything, the posts in this thread alone show how difficult a term it is to define though and one that not everyone will agree on

Accusing somebody's sexuality of being a way of being 'different' or 'hipster' as if it's some kind of attention seeking joke is really belittling, insensitive and disrespectful.

Ninastar 26-02-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5857548)
I'm sure Caitlin didn't mean to come across as disrespectful or anything. At first, I was unable to see the difference between 'bisexual' and 'pansexual'. You have to understand that people aren't always clued up about things when it's the first time they've come across it.

Thank you.

Redway 26-02-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5857558)
Yes but stereotyping as a hipster or wanting to be different can be taken the wrong way as well as all the jokey posts, I've for ages struggled with my feelings (still do) and it just doesn't help. And I'm not looking for sympathy, just a little respect.

Wasn't it someone else who made that 'hipster' comment?

Jack_ 26-02-2013 12:19 AM

I couldn't give a **** how anybody tries to spin it, 'meh I just see it as a way of being 'different' is so patronising and disregards any feelings the person on the receiving end of it may have.

reece(: 26-02-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5857569)
Wasn't it someone else who made that 'hipster' comment?

Does it really matter who it was though?

GypsyGoth 26-02-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5857572)
I couldn't give a **** how anybody tries to spin it, 'meh I just see it as a way of being 'different' is so patronising and disregards any feelings the person on the receiving end of it may have.

For someone who is meant to like every gender on the planet, you don't seem all that tolerant or understanding.

Black Dagger 26-02-2013 12:23 AM

Y'all like dick or vagina or both or you don't care and would rather have a cheese sandwich.

GypsyGoth 26-02-2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 5857573)
Does it really matter who it was though?

Yep, it does matter.

lostalex 26-02-2013 12:25 AM

Is there a way to see how people voted in the poll?


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