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Josy 02-06-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6892095)
According to ITV news..the dogs are going in tomorrow.

I don't understand why? When in this investigation dogs findings are totally disregarded...if they are as unreliable as we are led to believe, why use them again in the same investigation :shrug:

I posted this before above but I'm interested in the outcome tbh just to see if the McCanns discredit any findings again or not.

Vicky. 02-06-2014 09:37 PM

I hope to god this little girl can finally be laid to rest at the end of this. But I doubt it.

Crimson Dynamo 02-06-2014 09:55 PM

All I think about are the poor parents. They have done thier best

CaudleHalbard 02-06-2014 11:04 PM

I wonder how the McCanns libel case against Goncalo Amaral is going?

Will they investigate the golf course (many miles from the apartment complex) Gerry McCann spent several hours at.... but didn't play golf? ;)

Vicky. 02-06-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6892424)
I wonder how the McCanns libel case against Goncalo Amaral is going?

Will they investigate the golf course (many miles from the apartment complex) Gerry McCann spent several hours at.... but didn't play golf? ;)

Thats been kept well out of our media hasnt it...

Court ruled that the McCanns have no right to sue in Madeleine's name as she is a ward of court, basically. They want proof that the McCanns had permission to attempt way back when they started the trial. So its not even something they can apply for NOW..it had to be applied for at the time. If they cannot produce this, Amaral will be acquitted (though I think they were suing for damages to themselves and the twins too? That will go ahead..they just can't sue for Madeleine)

16th June is proposed final session. Gerry will be required to physically attend court to give his statement...

Spoiler:

Ward of Court: Decision issued by Judge in Libel Trial
1 Jun 2014





Judge rules that Kate and Gerry McCann do not possess the authority to sue Gonçalo Amaral in their daughter’s name.


The judge at the Civil Court of Lisbon who is trying the ‘libel’ case which Kate and Gerry McCann have filed against Gonçalo Amaral and 3 other parties has issued a decision concerning the matter of Madeleine McCann being a Ward of Court.

On the 3rd of January 2014, Gonçalo Amaral had argued before the Lisbon Court that Madeleine’s parents do not possess the necessary power to represent their daughter in this action, since the child had been made a Ward of Court in the United Kingdom.

The judge decided that Mr Amaral should present a certificate of the relevant British judicial ruling. That certificate was delivered to the Court on the 2nd of May, after a lengthy, expensive process.

The judge then had to decide whether or not Madeleine’s parents were entitled to represent their daughter in this lawsuit. In the judge’s recent ruling, it is mentioned that “within the 'Wardship', the High Court holds ultimate responsibility over the child, but it does not suppress or annul the exercise of the parental responsibilities”. The High Court takes control over “the most important decisions for the life” of the child. The judge further considers that “the decision to file a judicial action in the name of the child” is a decision “of the magnitude that is demanded for the agreement or consent of the court”.

The judge’s ruling further notes that the matters that have been brought before the High Court that holds the Wardship have been matters of an “eminently judiciary nature, like the revelation of confidential information and documents, that are related to the child’s disappearance and were in the possession of the local police”.

The text continues with the consideration that because Madeleine was made a Ward of the Court on the 2nd of April of 2008, her parents did not possess, in 2009, “the necessary capacity of representation of their daughter to file the present action without the authorization from the British court”.

Nevertheless, the judge has decided that the final court session, which will include a statement from Gerald McCann and the presentation of closing arguments from all sides, should take place regardless of the matter of the Wardship.

After that hearing is completed, the proceedings will be suspended for 30 days. During that period, Madeleine’s parents “shall arrange for the collection and documentation in the records of the British Court’s authorization for the bringing of this action on behalf of the minor Madeleine McCann”. If they fail to do so, the defendants will be “acquitted of the proceedings concerning the requests that have been formulated on behalf of the latter”.

The judge has proposed the date of 16th June for the final session, but each of the lawyers involved have the possibility of declining said date and suggesting alternative dates.

http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/w...judge.html?m=1

arista 03-06-2014 10:11 AM

On Todays News
as UK Police are there in the Holiday time
many UK Holiday makers were going there
but now have pulled out
I do not blame them

Nedusa 03-06-2014 10:43 AM

I do not see how they cannot postpone this search until after the holiday season ends, I mean if there is anything there it will still be there in 4 months time.

Vicky. 03-06-2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 6892933)
On Todays News
as UK Police are there in the Holiday time
many UK Holiday makers were going there
but now have pulled out
I do not blame them

Yeah..a lot of the residents of PDL are really pissed off. If you think though..this farce of a case has been affecting their businesses and homelife for 7years now

Z 03-06-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6892949)
I do not see how they cannot postpone this search until after the holiday season ends, I mean if there is anything there it will still be there in 4 months time.

Unless somebody moved it :shrug: I find it incredible that 7 years later they think to check an area of scrubland right beside where she went missing and that they're doing it right at the start of the summer but what do I know.

Vicky. 03-06-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 6893578)
Unless somebody moved it :shrug: I find it incredible that 7 years later they think to check an area of scrubland right beside where she went missing and that they're doing it right at the start of the summer but what do I know.

Venturing slightly into total conspiracy here, but I have a feeling it might have something to do with David and Fiona Payne being wiped out of the whole story. They werent mentioned on crimewatch. David was the one who spoke of a pact of silence in his statement too...and the one who made the tennis bag thing seem really dodgy (saying things like 'it wasnt big enough to hide a....put a tennis raquet in)

I just can't see any other reason why they would suddenly decide to do this, except for someone blabbing something :shrug:

Vicky. 03-06-2014 10:14 PM

Well...

ITV news just said the police have sent buckets of soil off for testing. And that there are 8 people of interest to be took in by police.

Interesting.

Jack_ 03-06-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6892182)
All I think about are the poor parents. They have done thier best

Did you feel the same when Shannon Matthews went missing?

Kizzy 03-06-2014 10:58 PM

That's a bit of a leading question, do you mean because of the social standing issue?

Nedusa 03-06-2014 11:04 PM

I wonder if they'll find the body of Lord Lucan down there as well.

Marsh. 03-06-2014 11:09 PM

I can't get the story about one of their friends out of my head whenever this comes on the news now. :bored:

Nedusa 03-06-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6895047)
I can't get the story about one of their friends out of my head whenever this comes on the news now. :bored:

I know... makes me think there is a lot more to this story than what has been told to the public.

The story is 7 years old yet more revelations more investigations almost in the news every Month.

Perhaps there are further major developments just around the corner.

Vicky. 03-06-2014 11:18 PM

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/201...idence-of.html

This is basically a page that translates the Portuguese articles. I have no idea if the press over there are as bad for making stuff up as ours are though so it should be taken with a pinch of salt...

Quote:

The English Police believe the body of Madeleine McCann, who disappeared seven years ago in the Algarve, is or has been buried in Praia da Luz, Lagos. This the focus of the British investigators who began yesterday the search for evidence of the death of the English child on the ground where excavations were authorized, searching for both the corpse or other hidden vestiges.

CM found out that sniffer dogs, that were brought from England to detect corpses or buried clues, will begin to be used today in the searches. Investigators from Scotland Yard are convinced that the English child, then with four and who was on holiday with her parents and twin siblings in the Ocean Club resort, died in Praia da Luz and that her body was buried in a vacant lot.

They admit, however, that the body could have been removed, at a later time, from the location where it was hidden and that it is now possible to detect any clues that were left on the ground.
IF this is true, our police are now completely inline with what Amaral thought before being removed from the case...

Kizzy 03-06-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6895047)
I can't get the story about one of their friends out of my head whenever this comes on the news now. :bored:

Do you mean that payne guy?... for some reason he totally creeped me out, but I was right about Rolf Harris so who knows.

Me. I Am Salman 03-06-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 6429815)
All these sightings must be so frustrating for her family

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6429854)
If that was the case, they'd have let the case die down years ago surely?

It's the parents who have kept the case in the limelight 6 years on.

how things change :o

Marsh. 03-06-2014 11:21 PM

What do you mean?

Marsh. 03-06-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6895088)
Do you mean that payne guy?... for some reason he totally creeped me out, but I was right about Rolf Harris so who knows.

Yep, that's the one. When I read the transcript of what that guy said about Madeleine I felt sick.

Niamh. 04-06-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6895103)
Yep, that's the one. When I read the transcript of what that guy said about Madeleine I felt sick.

mmm there was definitely something funny about that guy and his involvement in it imo

Crimson Dynamo 04-06-2014 09:20 AM

Lets hope they find what they are looking for and the Poor McCann parents can get closure, god knows they have suffered enough

Livia 04-06-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6895601)
Lets hope they find what they are looking for and the Poor McCann parents can get closure, god knows they have suffered enough

They'll get no sympathy here sadly. They were wrong to leave the kids... and it seems people want them to suffer the agony of that mistake for the rest of their lives. They should have left Madeleine in a boiling hot car with the windows closed and let her die a slow agonising death from heatstroke and dehydration, they may have got a little sympathy then.

CaudleHalbard 04-06-2014 10:42 AM

The people I feel sorry for are the residents and businesses of PDL.

Having followed this case closely over the years, including reading Amaral's book and all the information freely available online, I'm afraid "poor Kate and Gerry" do not get an ounce of sympathy from me.

The only reason they keep this in the public eye is because they know the huge amount of suspicion that still hangs over them. It would not surprise me if they are happy for the body to be found - at long last - now that any forensic evidence of, for example, sedatives or even sexual abuse will be long gone.


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