In view of events DRooms tantrums, Alex' obvious uneasiness, Perez coughing all over him and even continuing when he was asked not to, in view of a lot of things I agree, he left because of Perez. He did the right thing as he was afraid of showing himself up and possibly hitting him. The majority of the HMs said the same thing. All in the past now, would love to go to one of Alexs performances.

Omg, no! :eek: Really? That's so relevant to the conversation. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Thanks Johnny. :thumbs:

Pratez in the kitchen was just one thing. Following Alexander around the house and laughing in his face and the 4am coughing by Alexanders bedside until he woke up whilst prior to talking into his mic from the toilet that he is about to go in the bedroom to wake Alexander up?

No but neither was she perez stuff :confused:

:joker: But we all know already what she has said,I have my views on those things you mention Annie,but don't think they are for the forum:hehe:

Maybe he might have done, but from what we know, he was clean before going into the house, so really saying he was going through withdrawal can hardly cut it as a valid argument to try and make Perez seem less of a wanker :laugh:

It is a waste of time, even when we point out we saw wrongs in Perez and even criticised some things he did in the house, it seems Katie Hopkins is faultless and no bad in her at all while Perez is all bad.

I have listed even more of her vile attitude and prejudices, not just to single figures but as to whole entire sections of society that are not her ideal perfect people.
It just goes by and is dismissed, just as she would do.

Says a lot really.

Yes, not the entire bedroom, just Alexander. How selective. :clap1:

ENOUGH,ENOUGH,ENOUGH:joker::joker:

A woman who lives in my street in an addict and she goes mental after a day without a fix. If Alexander was withdrawing he would be shaking, crawling the walls...his actions within the house were not of a man who even had a habit.

Hey, I'm not trying to make him seem less of a wanker. :laugh:

I'm just pointing out where we draw the line when it comes to blaming other's issues on him.

Is he at fault for Patsy's panic attacks? :hehe:

I think the way they're behaving outside the House says it all. Perez has said nothing, while going back to his life. KH is still mouthing off about him. :hehe:

Hence why I said "casual". Not a full blown crackhead.

There is such a thing as a functioning addict who can cope on relatively little but if they go for so much time they get quite irritable.

I'm not suggesting he was going cold turkey from a full blown addiction.

I was only playing Kaz. ..i already knew the perez stuff too and it is awful the things he's done and said similarly Katie.

Anyway I'm going to get off the fence, put my big wooden spoon away and bugger off for the evening.

Goodnight all :love:

Perez is the new Jim!
We need to make a thread "what else can you blame Perez for? " :joker:

all i see is deflection on to what Perez has done on KH thread. Apart from the small handful of Perez supporters, everyone knows that Perez was a dick. The point is KH was a dick before she entered the house, was a dick in it, and has carried on being a dick outside again. Nothing to justify or argue about. She is a dick

You said he was having withdrawals. A casual drug user would not have withdrawls.

I just despair that this woman commands such respect and support from parts of the UK.
It also really worries me that her opinions and prejudices carry any weight at all.
It's frightening almost really.

Oh yeah, Perez obviously wasn't completely to blame for Alex going back to crack, but no doubt that the stress he put Alex and everyone else under gave him a nudge in that direction :laugh:

God no, Patsy would have had a meltdown if she was in there with the Dalai lama :flutter:

I know you was Annie,me too,you have a nice evening,I do like a good old debate ,just annoying when it gets nasty and silly:joker::joker:

I agree. But i also believe in kharma and she will get hers soon.

I also said to Liam "I was joking, being facetious" but you missed that?

Hi Marsh I would think the majority realise that but as Perez was in the DR having a tantrum I guess the producers agreed pretty quick. We saw Alex in there earlier saying that Perez was in every corner and he couldnt take it. What I will never understand is why they didnt ask him to think it over, the only reason I can think of is because their supposed blue eyed ratings boy was having a tantrum. Makes you wonder if seeing as P had the ears of the producers did he make the same threat to walk out as he did for Ken? We know that both Nadia and Perez threatened to walk out if Ken wasnt removed.:wavey:

Sure Marsh you're always right

I can't really comment on the stuff that never made it to air because it's all "he said, she said" really. But, yes, no doubt a lot of unaired material would shed light on the situation.