In my opinion he was part of the bully circle of Maxwell, Saskia etc. When they left he carried on picking on Derek, he also engaged in aggressive arguments with Kemal and Craig

Aggressive arguments with Derek, Craig and Kemal definitely.

But were any of those three "victims" of his bullying? Not in the slightest. All of them gave as good as they got.

Derek's treatment of Sam was bloody awful, so I especially don't buy him as some victim of bullying.

:umm2: this thread


I think I wll start my own thread about anti Irish sentiment every time someone disses Jade :hmph:

kk

:joker:

Glad you know I'm right. :smug:

But honestly, the reaching is getting desperate.

It is more than desperate it is vindictive,nasty and petty.
Everybody knows there is a racist element in our society and if these people that are making these claims truly believed that there was a problem with this show in particular their time would be better spent complaining to C5 and asking them to deal with it rather than flinging utter crap at members of this forum most of which are not racist and dont hold these bigoted views.

Doing anything else other than addressing these kind of complaints to the people in charge of the show just stinks of the behaviour of trouble makers rather than the behaviour of people with genuine concerns.

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This is a forum and this topic was made to debate a serious issue.

Some people feel passionately for and against this issue which I think is healthy

It's not healthy when the passion for this issue descends into making up sick fabrications like "monkey noises" made at the eviction.

Seems desperately trying to find an issue more than one presenting itself for debate.

Debate is fine but when forum members can't make any comment on the black housemates while it's open season on the rest it's really difficult to take it seriously.

White people have had it so tough on BBUK, they have only won 14 of the last 15 series :(

I'm just saying but I don't think the sexual aspect is a race thing, i'd say a female thing. Sexual women always get a lot of hate and if they say something classed as vulgar they'll get dragged (Penny, Sam, Kinga, Leah, Shanessa, Bianca, Adjoa etc) but guys get away with waaaayyy more imo

You're really not going to get far if you're using CBB5 as an example of race relations in the UK. Like, I'm actually floored.

i thought i had you on ignore

Yes, and sexism too.

Every first evictee (by public vote) has either been a woman, or a black man (except for Andrew Stone). No coincidence IMO.

Given that people pay good money when they vote, I very much doubt they vote with racism in mind. Racism is not widespread within the uk, if it was, there would be many more cases going to court. You either subscribe to the idea of the show based on it being a popularity contest, or you don't, if you don't then don't watch the show.

Wow, anyone would think we're in a county that is predominantly white and therefore the odds are in their favour.

for the record I definitely would've posted a certain collage image but it may or may not be banned? it's a really telling visual of all the black girls evicted at the first opportunity :(

Couldn't stand winston, but I do remember the guys getting flack that season for being sleazes..IIRC Marlon (and maybe someone else) got warnings for how they spoke about the women.... Even so, I didn't hear pussy talk coming out of their mouths every couple of seconds, unless I missed a lot of it or it was cut out. Maybe she didn't go on as much as it made out, but honestly, its pretty much all I remember of her besides how bloody gorgeous she was

Hardly just sex talk, come on :joker:

Lies. Many of them were nominated several times. :hee:

Exactly. She wasn't a woman who talked about sex, she was a woman who was desperate for attention, shouting, screaming, flashing her tits, riding Winston etc.

Irritating doesn't come close.

I quite liked Bianca tbh, for all of about an hour. Seemed a breath of fresh air..but she soon came across as really desperate. Mind it was quite funny seeing Winston pretty much literally running away from her. But to say Bianca was hated for sex talk is bloody ridiculous.

Biannca would have stayed longer if she didn't immediately become pals with Hellen

This. And I like Helen.

Also, Pav's self-pitying victim status also helped him get more votes than her.
Honestly, what a tool Pav was.