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LukeB 14-02-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8515295)
It really isn't. Like, I get it, some people find him annoying and fame hungry and deluded and I totally get why...and yes, there's a couple of things he said in the house which were unacceptable (but nothing compared to his predecessors in BB15), but aside from that he is in absolutely no way comparable to the likes of Justin, Joshuah, anyone from BB15, even Dick who I'm indifferent towards.

They are just ridiculous comparisons and to even put him in the same as people who held a knife to someone's throat, joked about the suicide of someone's father, relentlessly bullied another houseguest and made countless racist remarks, out and out racists, burnt someone else with a cigarette etc etc, just cause he's a bit annoying is really just quite moronic.

he's a cu nt though, the things he came out with is gross, he isn't the worse but he is vile and deserves the hate he gets.

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:03 PM

idc if I put Dan below people who are racist/sexist/etc
As I said in another thread I only care about problematicness if it's on a huge Aaryn, Conor McIntyre or Evel Dick level. If I hated for single comments then I'd basically hate most of reality tv contestants and 90% of the world

Jack_ 14-02-2016 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8515311)
he's a cu nt though, the things he came out with is gross, he isn't the worse but he is vile and deserves the hate he gets.

The only reason he's disliked is because:

A) He's annoying
B) He's fame hungry and has delusions of grandeur
C) Made questionable comments about Victoria and whoever else idk

None of which is comparable to any of the things I listed in my last post. It is just stupid and not at all objective

Macie Lightfoot 14-02-2016 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8515295)
It really isn't. Like, I get it, some people find him annoying and fame hungry and deluded and I totally get why...and yes, there's a couple of things he said in the house which were unacceptable (but nothing compared to his predecessors in BB15), but aside from that he is in absolutely no way comparable to the likes of Justin, Joshuah, anyone from BB15, even Dick who I'm indifferent towards.

They are just ridiculous comparisons and to even put him in the same as people who held a knife to someone's throat, joked about the suicide of someone's father, relentlessly bullied another houseguest and made countless racist remarks, out and out racists, burnt someone else with a cigarette etc etc, just cause he's a bit annoying is really just quite moronic.

Frankie isn't just a bit annoying though lol that's wayyyyy too generous of an analysis on him. He exploited his grandfather's death and used it as a strategy (which is more in line with the behavior seen in BB15 than anything imo!), he's the type of gay who thinks his homosexuality is an excuse to constantly spew offensive **** 25/7, he's an entitled camera*****, he's a vapid and a complete shell of a human being, none of his behavior is remotely human, he was a complete assholes to both the outsiders and his closest allies, he didn't know where his bread was buttered. He has no good qualities.

Pete. 14-02-2016 06:05 PM

Didn't he tell Jocasta to kill herself? Racist?

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8515324)
The only reason he's disliked is because:

A) He's annoying
B) He's fame hungry and has delusions of grandeur
C) Made questionable comments about Victoria and whoever else idk

None of which is comparable to any of the things I listed in my last post. It is just stupid and not at all objective

it's not even about the 1st two.. it's more of the things he said

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Grande said that two of the male houseguests, Cody Calafiore and Caleb Reynolds, should “team up” and “take all her virginities," along with making suggestive hand gestures.[54] These remarks provoked the ire of Rafaeli's family, with her mother claiming that these jokes make her daughter “a target for rape,” and demanding an apology from Grande.Frankie had also previously made headlines for suggesting that another houseguest, Jocasta Odom, "can go kill herself" if she was upset after being nominated for eviction. Grande's comment was particularly scrutinized because Odom had led a funeral service for her grandfather who had passed away days beforehand
why shouldn't this get any hate? it's deserved, he is a ****.

EspeonBB 14-02-2016 06:07 PM

Frankie did say some vile comments on top of being extremely annoying. Joking about raping Victoria and saying lesbians choose to be lesbians :umm2:

Macie Lightfoot 14-02-2016 06:09 PM

I think there are plenty of reasons to hate Frankie without even factoring in the Victoria comment tbh.

Jack_ 14-02-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8515330)
He exploited his grandfather's death and used it as a strategy (which is more in line with the behavior seen in BB15 than anything imo!)

Personally I think that's up for debate, but even if it is true, as distasteful as it may be, you know what's coming next...it's still a game. I don't think that's comparable in any way to racism, homophobia, the relentless bullying of a houseguest including comments about their stepchildren and how they 'should've been swallowed' etc etc

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8515330)
he's the type of gay who thinks his homosexuality is an excuse to constantly spew offensive **** 25/7

There's definitely a debate to be had there but it still isn't as bad as any of the things I've listed in previous posts.

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8515330)
he's an entitled camera*****

So were numerous other houseguests throughout BBUS, and numerous other reality TV contestants. Annoying a trait as it may be, it still isn't on the same level as threatening people with knives, burning people with cigarettes, bullying, you know the list.

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8515330)
he's a vapid and a complete shell of a human being, none of his behavior is remotely human

That can apply to almost 80% of all reality show contestants worldwide.

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8515330)
he was a complete assholes to both the outsiders and his closest allies, he didn't know where his bread was buttered.

That's his problem though, and being an asshole isn't unusual in reality TV, let alone BBUS.

None of these things are remotely on the same level as the actions of people like Joshuah, Justin, Amanda, Dick. Not even close.

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:12 PM

But anyways to end these Frankie debates, let's discuss the true stars of BB15 who are a MUST for all-stars.

http://wwwimage.cbsstatic.com/base/f...505_d1640b.jpg

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:12 PM


Ross. 14-02-2016 06:13 PM

Macie's rants are amazing <3

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:13 PM

Does anyone remember Frankie's sexist comments about Lesbians are able to choose their sexualitys?

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:13 PM

FFS

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:13 PM

calm down

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:14 PM

Frankie is evil and that's all that matters.

reece(: 14-02-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8515362)
Does anyone remember Frankie's sexist comments about Lesbians are able to choose their sexualitys?

An extremely warped mind view.

Jack_ 14-02-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8515338)
it's not even about the 1st two.. it's more of the things he said



why shouldn't this get any hate? it's deserved, he is a ****.

Yes the Victoria comments have been discussed and rightly condemned numerous times, and the 'go kill herself' comment really isn't beyond the realms of the kind of things houseguests across the atlantic say to be honest.

Such comments still weren't anywhere near as prolonged or as offensive as the racism, homophobia, sexism, bullying, physical violence, near-violence that people like Scumanda, Joshuah, Justin and Dick have displayed in the past.

People can dislike him and think he's a **** as much as they want, but to put him on the same list as, or even instead of those people is just idiotic. Nothing more, nothing less.

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8515368)
An extremely warped mind view.

and CBS allowed him on the talk show with Derrick :umm2: makes you think they condone vile comments.

So yeah Frankie gives people reasons to hate and it's really deserved. If he said something that's not even offensive or that bad then i would say it's OTT but its not.

reece(: 14-02-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8515379)
and CBS allowed him on the talk show with Derrick :umm2: makes you think they condone vile comments.

So yeah Frankie gives people reasons to hate and it's really deserved. If he said something that's not even offensive or that bad then i would say it's OTT but its not.

CBS try and mask comments made from their faves such as Jeff's homophobic rant

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8515374)
Yes the Victoria comments have been discussed and rightly condemned numerous times, and the 'go kill herself' comment really isn't beyond the realms of the kind of things houseguests across the atlantic say to be honest.

Such comments still weren't anywhere near as prolonged or as offensive as the racism, homophobia, sexism, bullying, physical violence, near-violence that people like Scumanda, Joshuah, Justin and Dick have displayed in the past.

People can dislike him and think he's a **** as much as they want, but to put him on the same list as, or even instead of those people is just idiotic. Nothing more, nothing less.

his lesbian comment is deffo sexist. I think the Dan is worse than a racist/sexist houseguests is the most idiotic thing but Frankie isn't worse than them but he is kind of close to it.

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8515381)
CBS try and mask comments made from their faves such as Jeff's homophobic rant

makes me think will they get Aaryn,Amanda and Gina back for some awful twist :worry:

Pete. 14-02-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8515396)
makes me think will they get Aaryn,Amanda and Gina back for some awful twist :worry:

Why would they?

LukeB 14-02-2016 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8515399)
Why would they?

run out of ideas, they don't seem to care what they did, redemption. who knows what goes in their brain.. they give us what we don;t want. BOTB is a fan fav apparently.

Dominic 14-02-2016 06:25 PM

fan fav means Grodner's fave these days


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