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-   -   Do you think Andrew should be ejected for his past comments? (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302011)

caprimint 09-06-2016 09:17 AM
Absolutely not. Tila should have never been either. They should only be ejected based upon instances that occur within in the house. I'm sure you could find reasons to eject a good few of them if you looked into their backgrounds and histories.

Denver 09-06-2016 09:18 AM
Tila was ejected for something far worse not similar

Denver 09-06-2016 09:19 AM
Its gonna be a long series with housemates backgrounds being pulled up to use against peoples faves :worry:

Livia 09-06-2016 09:44 AM
My question has got to be, why the **** has he been allowed in there after comments like that?

ThriceShy 09-06-2016 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8701878)
My question has got to be, why the **** has he been allowed in there after comments like that?
Why shouldn't they let him in? Do daft twitter jokes mean you can never live your life?:shrug:

Livia 09-06-2016 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8701906)
Why shouldn't they let him in? Do daft twitter jokes mean you can never live your life?:shrug:
Only when those "daft Twitter jokes" are homophobic, racist and deeply offensive. And if he doesn't know that he's a bigger dick than I already think he is.

ThriceShy 09-06-2016 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8701913)
Only when those "daft Twitter jokes" are homophobic, racist and deeply offensive. And if he doesn't know that he's a bigger dick than I already think he is.
So what should happen? He should live on the dole for the rest of his life because some delicate flowers sought out his old tweets and queued up to take offence at them?

Perhaps he should be branded on his forehead with the word "twitter troll" so that everyone knows never to employ him again.

Livia 09-06-2016 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8701924)
So what should happen? He should live on the dole for the rest of his life because some delicate flowers sought out his old tweets and queued up to take offence at them?

Perhaps he should be branded on his forehead with the word "twitter troll" so that everyone knows never to employ him again.
To be honest, she's already shown me he's a bigot, so I really couldn't give a sh1t what happens to him. But he definitely shouldn't be on the telly.

Vanessa 09-06-2016 10:11 AM
It looks like he could be thrown out for that. Let's see what happens.

ThriceShy 09-06-2016 10:13 AM
So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:

Livia 09-06-2016 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8701954)
So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:
There hasn't been any arguing.

Headie 09-06-2016 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8701954)
So what does the OP think of the response to his poll?

He made a big point of saying that he just wanted the poll and no arguing. So does he accept the result or what?:shrug:
Yeah? Everyone's entitled to their opinion on whether he should be ejected, and after some of he responses in the thread my view has changed a little.

I voted yes from a consistency basis - i.e. it's inconsistent/unfair for them to kick out Tila and not do the same for Andrew. However I do agree with those saying that he should only be ejected if he does something bad in the house (which is what I thought should've been done for Tila).

I guess my desire for the show to be consistent and fair won over in influencing my vote in the poll on this occasion.

But to answer your question, yes I accept the result, if not I would've said "only vote in the poll if you agree with me!!!" :joker:

Livia 09-06-2016 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8701964)
Yeah? Everyone's entitled to their opinion on whether he should be ejected, and after some of he responses in the thread my view has changed a little.

I voted yes from a consistency basis - i.e. it's inconsistent/unfair for them to kick out Tila and not do the same for Andrew. However I do agree with those saying that he should only be ejected if he does something bad in the house (which is what I thought should've been done for Tila).

I guess my desire for the show to be consistent and fair won over in influencing my vote in the poll on this occasion.

But to answer your question, yes I accept the result, if not I would've said "only vote in the poll if you agree with me!!!" :joker:
So it's perfectly fine for someone to post blatantly racist things on the Internet and get away with it because they didn't say it in the house. But is isn't okay for someone to black up as a joke not meant to offend anyone, before they were in the house.

That's some twisted kind of logic there, Hayden.

Mitchell 09-06-2016 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8699252)
No, as it was in the past. If it was like a few months ago then fair enough but it was 4 years ago and I think people are slightly making a big deal out of it.
But last year people dug up years old Danny and he was judged for them, if Andrew was 19 at the time or whatever I'd understand, but he was 25.

My opinion is that he shouldn't, but considering they ejected Tila for her comments, I think he should.

Headie 09-06-2016 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8701985)
So it's perfectly fine for someone to post blatantly racist things on the Internet and get away with it because they didn't say it in the house. But is isn't okay for someone to black up as a joke not meant to offend anyone, before they were in the house.

That's some twisted kind of logic there, Hayden.
No, it's not okay at all, and I don't think he should've been cast in the first place - however producers shouldn't eject him in the house AFTER they have had what, 3 or 4 months to do a background check on this guy, spent money putting him in hiding, creating his profile shots etc just for him to be ejected in week 1 like Tila. Now that he's in the house, he should only be ejected once he says something offensive (which he probably will), but from a consistency point of view, he should be ejected like Tila.

I'm struggling to express my point clearly, I know I sound like a hypocritical mess all over the place, but it makes sense in my head :laugh:

jet 09-06-2016 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8701607)
But they are cartoon characters? Big Brother is a cartoon show. It hasn't been a social experiment since about 2003. They are merely characters in one of the most false environments on television, it's like an unscripted soap opera. You cannot tell me Big Brother is real life because it isn't, and therefore the real lives of the people who enter to become housemates and characters are just not relevant to what occurs within the confines of a glorified television set.

How can people redeem themselves or surprise us if we don't know their pasts? This may be true for Celebrity Big Brother because the lives of the housemates are well documented (although I still think it's silly not to judge the celebs on a blank slate), but for the civilians? Absolutely not. I mean sure, the forums and social media have uncovered some pretty nasty tweets made by Andrew - but they were four years ago for starters and let's be honest, you cannot gauge what a person is truly like from their social media account, this is true for everyone.

Unless you suggest we get the entire documented history of each and every housemate with character references from those who know them and every single detail of everything they've ever done good or bad, we just simply do not know them, and it is silly to suggest otherwise. We get to know them - in the 48 minutes we have a night mind you - on the television show we are watching. That is the point of the programme.
No need to go over the top. If something comes to light about a HM, it's human nature to be influenced by that according to your own set of values and morals. Over the course of the series you then change your mind or have your impression of them confirmed.

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But they are cartoon characters?
No they aren't. That's why BB is called a REALITY show. You can't leave yourself behind when you walk into that house and become a different character....You'll always bring yourself along. :hehe:

Headie 09-06-2016 12:06 PM
His comments have reached the wider press now :clap1:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/b...-faces-8147116

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...-racist-tweets

lime 09-06-2016 12:20 PM
I see his brother said on twitter to google his farther Emory tate ...(fairly famous chess player who has passed away).He was mixed race but when I looked at his twitter ,he also tweeted the one about gays wanting your children.....must be some type of family motto

Headie 09-06-2016 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8702187)
Not the DailyStar using Thisisbigbrother as a source :clap1:

Ross. 09-06-2016 12:33 PM
get that promo TiBB!

Mystic Mock 09-06-2016 12:36 PM
Unless he supports Nazism or the KKK, or joins these sort of groups then no he shouldn't be thrown out.

The show imo shouldn't be having someone on the show that supports evil regimes by the actual law, which is why Tila was thrown out.

Jordan. 09-06-2016 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8702240)
Not the DailyStar using Thisisbigbrother as a source :clap1:
Dd

reece(: 09-06-2016 12:39 PM
TiBB getting that inside scoop

Tom4784 09-06-2016 12:40 PM
Give him enough rope to hang himself with, he's desperate to make people believe he is smart but those outbursts on Twitter say otherwise, he'll slip up in the house, say something racist/homophobic/mysoginist and get thrown out.

Amy Jade 09-06-2016 12:51 PM
Hayden, TiBB's very own promo gal


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