It's all there, you've just got to read it.

The US Customs and Border Protection Agency at Dulles International Airport has refused to grant attorneys access to any detainees it may be holding, according to Sharifa Abassi, who is coordinating the volunteer lawyer efforts underway there. Yesterday, a federal judge for the Eastern District of Virginia ordered respondents, who include CBP, President Trump, and the CBP Port Director for Dulles Wayne Biondi, to “permit lawyers access to all legal permanent residents being detained at Dulles International Airport.”

Abassi says late Sunday morning a border agent told lawyers that agents have been instructed not to speak with them. About 15 lawyers have been directed to call Steve Sapp, an official with the CBP Office of Public Affairs, but have so far have not had their calls answered or returned. Washingtonian called the number, which directed reporters to a cellphone number whose voicemail was full.

Abbasi and one other lawyer we spoke to say officials at Dulles have refused to engage with the lawyers since this morning. A border agent who agreed to bring the lawyers’ request for access to detainees, as well as a copy of the order, to her supervisor came back with this message: “It’s not going to happen.”

https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/0...see-detainees/

This could be the beginning of the end of the US as a constitutional republic.

Really!!!

I've seen and heard it all now.

How do I put someone on ignore?

Is your ignore list exclusive or are you doing requests?

You go on their profile, press the 'user lists' dropdown menu and select 'add to ignore list'

Ta.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.95487921a43c

Colour me surprised :rolleyes: what was I saying a few months ago about these kinds of policies pandering to Islamic fundamentalists again?

Yup, it gives them more ammunition.

Good video on the protests here, I like how its filmed, just basically showing the human side to it.

http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/28/...ps-muslim-ban/

“It’s not a Muslim ban, but we’re totally prepared,” Trump claimed. “It’s working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over. It’s working out very nicely and we’re gonna have a very, very strict ban and we’re going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years.”
Except that it’s NOT “working very nicely” at all.
Thousands of people are finding themselves stranded or detained at airports because of the order. Even holders of green cards are being prevented from entering the United States despite being citizens of this nation. Protests against Trump’s order have also been popping up at airports across the country.
And things got even worse on Saturday evening when security at Dulles International Airport detained a five-year-old girl and refused to let her mother see her.
Seriously, how in the hell is a five-year-old girl even considered a terror threat in this country?
Former Governor Howard Dean posted the news on Twitter and pleaded for an attorney to go to the scene to rescue the girl as soon as possible.

WASHINGTON —The Trump administration took a major step back late Sunday from its temporary ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, issuing a clarification that the order does not apply to green-card holders “absent the receipt of significant derogatory information.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

Incredible!UKParliament just voted unanimously urging US Government to repeal the immigration order. Very proud of UKParliament.#MuslimBan
9:11 PM - 30 Jan 2017

Brilliant!!

A Google engineer had made the same argument in a viral blog post just hours before, arguing that the institution of the Muslim ban could be seen as a "trial balloon for a coup". He pointed to a range of different events – including reports that the Muslim ban was opposed by lawyers at the Department for Homeland Security, who were then overruled by Mr Bannon, and a report from the Guardian that claimed that the White House had "purged" nearly all senior staff at the State Department.

The post by Yonatan Zunger claimed that the administration was in the middle of transferring all executive power "to a tight inner circle, eliminating any possible checks from either the Federal bureaucracy, Congress, or the Courts. Departments are being reorganized or purged to effect this". He also wrote that moves like the Muslim ban and the unexpected events that followed are a way of "actively probing the means by which they can seize unchallenged power".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7554556.html

Thanks Kizzy

Bannons name is coming up again and again. Here is a recent article about Bannon's perceived influence on the current crop of executive orders:

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/20...-orders/215179

Its also well worth the time to read for Bannon insight:
Building the House of Breitbart

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/b...ht-koch-trump/

Stephen Bannon is an extreme Alt-Right, anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, who has absolutely no business being in any position which would influence official government policies.

If the so-called extreme right have no business influencing official government policies then clearly neither do the extreme left. Extremes on either side would be equally derisive.

Who are these extreme left, is it a particular person, publication or organisation?

That works both ways with left thinkers often referring to right thinkers who express strong opinions as 'alt right'.

In my opinion Corbyn, for example, would be a an obvious example of extreme left with his open door and unilateral disarmament policies without thought to the potential consequences of such policies.

Let's not get bogged down with what right or left leaning people do or don't say.

I asked what your example of extreme left was and you gave me Jeremy Corbyn based on his view for disarmament.

'In addition to looking at the factors supporting the reproduction of the UK’s nuclear weapons we should look at the political strength of those supporting disarmament. Nick Ritchie’s research into recent polls shows that the British public appears ‘quite firm in its support of global nuclear disarmament’, whilst its support for the planned replacement of Trident is ‘increasingly limited’. A wider question here is what information reaches the public, how it is framed and how salient nuclear and related security issues become. For example, in addition to focusing on the short-term goal of ‘No Trident replacement’ it may be beneficial for disarmament advocates to propose that the UK become a former NWS.

The reason to have this as a medium to long-term goal is firstly that the UK will always be a NWS according to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty so that, as Scott Sagan argues, former NWS would be ‘more latent’ than states which ‘did not have their technological expertise or operational experience’. Secondly, rather than focusing on scrapping a particular weapons system, former NWS status- as an objective- conveys more appropriately the wider political implications for the UK if it is to live up to its international responsibilities and disarm irreversibly, verifiably and transparently.'


It would seem the majority of Brits agree with him...are they all extreme left?

http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.u...ar_disarmament

The alt right are nazis, simple as. It's not about them 'having strong opinions' it's the fact that when people like Richard Spencer speak at events, people will literally agree with what he is saying with Nazi salutes. Nazi ideology and White Supremacy, that's what the Alt Right is.

There's the right wing and then there's the Alt Right Nazis, if you can't tell the difference between the two then that's rather worrying.

I think most people in theory would support global disarmament not unilateral disarmament. But even that in these Days of extreme terrorism is unlikely. All good in theory but the reality is not quite as clear cut.

So yes I do still think Corbyn, not the majority of Brits, is extreme and irresponsible in many of his views including disarmament. His personal idealism supersedes his common sense and opinions on what is best for the country in my opinion.

Ah, so what other issues can you pinpoint as idealistic and extreme left by definition?

a politician with backbone who actually delivers on a promise, what a legend
its a TEMPORARY shut down for 3 months to sort out the extreme vetting and keep america safer. the first riule of government is to protect its people. hes succeeded already here and all others have failed. the limp liberals are scared of offending ISIS? FFS pathetic spineless cowards

Open borders, PC gone mad and its hypocritical belief in diversity in skin colour but not in thinking and free speech and its general devaluing of British/Western culture and way of life, which it seems most other cultures want a piece of despite their refusal to integrate.

Or perhaps, wary of alienating and abusing an entire group of people to the point that they give up hope and become easy targets for radicalisation. Silly cowards, worried about making a problem 100x worse :fist:.

nope, spineless cowards who allow open borders across 30 nations , no border controls at all, endangering their own people who they are meant to be protecting

What are you on about?