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bots 20-02-2019 02:42 PM

i think they should all wear hats with the EU stars on them

arista 20-02-2019 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10451592)
i think they should all wear hats with the EU stars on them


Yes
Good One

arista 20-02-2019 02:45 PM

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...centrist-party

Cocky Chris Leslie MP gives a interview

arista 20-02-2019 02:57 PM

[Labour shuts down campaign tools
after Independent Group MP
tries to steal data.

Labour spokesperson: “We have become aware
of attempts to access personal data
held on the party’s systems by individuals
who are not authorised to do so.”]

Greg! 20-02-2019 03:49 PM

Anna Soubry and the gal who kept flipping her hair backwards during her speech attacking the Tories’ handling of the welfare system are icons

Crimson Dynamo 20-02-2019 03:52 PM

Bunch of deadbeats

Twosugars 20-02-2019 04:04 PM

good luck to them, anything to disturb the awful status quo of the stallinist corbyn and vampiric rees-mogg

arista 20-02-2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10451719)
good luck to them, anything to disturb the awful status quo of the stallinist corbyn and vampiric rees-mogg


General Election
they could all be gone

Thats the real test.

arista 20-02-2019 05:08 PM

Anna Soubry
Local Conservative Party are now selecting a New Member
her area vote to leave.
But she ignored them.

Ref: BBC1 news.

arista 20-02-2019 05:55 PM

If you Love Anna

Give her ring tomorrow from 10AM-1PM Live
On LBC her one day filling in for the normal left wing fella
on holiday all week.

Mitchell 20-02-2019 06:02 PM

We love McBusted

arista 20-02-2019 06:13 PM

Ch4HD news in Anna Soubry
local area Broxtowe, Nottinghamshire
met the Labour members office
who say no one wants her now ,
no one likes her.

She is live on Ch4HD news.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02...06_964x543.jpg

joeysteele 21-02-2019 07:41 AM

The thing on this too is.
Where, if this becomes a Party which with more defections it could.

Where does this leave the hapless Lib Dems.
Even a wholly hard right Conservative Party and a wholly hard left Labour Party, are still in this electoral system, going to dominate the votes.
Between them or more to one or the other.

This grouping, are like a more non toxic Lib Dems.
I can't now see a future for the Lib Dems at all unless they align with this group.
Having to have to drop the Lib Dem name.

Who says politics are dull.

For me now, The next Conservative leader needs to reach out more and have more leadership qualities in office.
Also to compromise and really listen, not just hear people's voices.

Corbyn must and very soon,.actively and forcefully rid the Labour Party of every single individual with any antisemitic views.
If he's not going to do so.
Then he should go, also it may already be too late for him to both have the will or ability now to do so in many peoples eyes.
I also know those who hate him, identify him as the problem to clearing it out.
I don't hold to that view of him myself, ..... yet.

Words are easy however, action is needed and strong action which he needs to exert to gain any credibility on the issue.

I am furious and dismayed any Jewish person, family or community, feel any concerns in the UK.
That is and should be a Nationwide disgrace.

This new grouping however, in the main want to really remain in the EU.
Also want a new vote on it.

Corbyn has been right to resist calling for a new vote.
As is the government.
Because any new referendum would need 3 questions.
The deal, whatever is on offer.
Leave with no deal.
Remain on current.terms.

That will split votes.
I think bring a worse, closer and even indecisive result.

Solving nothing.
So for me, this new grouping and how they are all going to stick to their so called long held principles and vital policies,to construct anything they all could comfortably agree on as a manifesto.
I think that will be a major problem.

United on brexit but big divisions as, if they do, more join them on other issues and policies.
That's likely another story.

bots 21-02-2019 08:30 AM

if we look at all this logically, if big numbers of conservatives move over to this new group, the conservatives would be forced to call a general election as they wouldnt have the numbers. If that were to happen, most of this new group would lose their seats .... and then it goes back to the 2 party system with maybe 1 or 2 independents at best.

arista 21-02-2019 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10453387)
if we look at all this logically, if big numbers of conservatives move over to this new group, the conservatives would be forced to call a general election as they wouldnt have the numbers. If that were to happen, most of this new group would lose their seats .... and then it goes back to the 2 party system with maybe 1 or 2 independents at best.


Yes If any more Conservatives go
Call a General Election.
Wash them Away.
LBC thinks a couple more

But so far they they expect more from Labour
to jump ship.

arista 21-02-2019 08:57 AM

Anna Soubry is Live on LBC at 10AM
her own show until 1PM



She had a Old Guy Very Angry
with her.

Oliver_W 21-02-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10453400)
Anna Soubry is Live on LBC at 10AM
her own show until 1PM



She had a Old Guy Very Angry
with her.

Is it regular, or one-off?

arista 21-02-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10453420)
Is it regular, or one-off?


One Day Only

the Left Wing fella is on a week holiday.


She is getting angry callers

smudgie 21-02-2019 10:57 AM

I detest Mz Soubry.
All her insistence she knows what’s best etc, she is an MP to represent her constituents, not her own point of view.
What is the point of the public getting a vote if their representatives don’t back that vote in parliament for them?

arista 21-02-2019 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10453456)
I detest Mz Soubry.
All her insistence she knows what’s best etc, she is an MP to represent her constituents, not her own point of view.
What is the point of the public getting a vote if their representatives don’t back that vote in parliament for them?


Yes she is over cocky.

arista 21-02-2019 12:55 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...front-page.jpg

Pathetic Heidi Allen wants to kill them off
try to - but soon at a Election - you will be gone

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...age-21-feb.jpg

arista 24-02-2019 10:19 AM

Reports a Labour Funder may switch to
this Group to Fund them
in today's Telegraph.


Back when the 2 Conservatives
left David Cameron for UKIP
they had by elections
So that is what this scared bunch must do.


If The PM calls another Snap Election (because of her Brexit blockage)
this bunch will all get washed away

MTVN 24-02-2019 10:25 AM

Confirmed they will start a new party

Vicky. 24-02-2019 10:27 AM

I don't know what to think of this. I do admire them for sticking to their views so much that this has happened, and I do think that its basically an emergency, this Corbyn thing now as people (especially women and Jewish people) are leaving the Labour party in droves. I think the damage he is doing to the party may be irreparable. So Torys basically will rule for a long time. Corbyn DID seem the answer, I mean, people on here will know I was maybe one of his biggest cheerleaders a couple of years back, but I have done a total 180 now..and honestly, currently if there was an election tomorrow, as much as I detest the Tories (I mean, I have a disability and will be treat worse by Tory rule than most others..have been treat..) I could not vote for Labour with Corbyn at the helm..I just couldn't. And lets be honest, its going to be a choice between Labour and Tories for the foreseeable future, maybe forever, thats just how it is. Local elections, I would vote for my Labour MP as he is amazing and has helped me a fair few times with tribunals waiting times, and being told I had to sign onto jobseekers when ATOS declared me cured, but then being refused jobseekers as I was 'clearly not fit for work and I would be breaking the law to say you were fine to look for jobs' :umm2: But a general election..I would probably abstain, which is likely the same as voting Tory.

arista 24-02-2019 10:34 AM

(I would probably abstain)

What about a Snap Election
no time for you to abstain
Vicky.


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