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Nicky91 07-01-2021 07:11 AM

Trump must rot in prison for rest of his life :idc:

Shaun 07-01-2021 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10980552)
This has been a civil uprising that happens all around the world, the people taking part are an uneducated unruly mob but to call these people terrorist’s is stretching the truth.

The level of bad blood in America goes nearly all the way back to its birth

Trump will be dead and gone but the divide will live on.

The definition of terrorism is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Where's the stretch?

Nicky91 07-01-2021 08:34 AM


Oliver_W 07-01-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10980483)

Fair point - where were the authorities when the riots were going on throughout the summer? Did they sit on their hands because it was only normal citizens who were the victims, and not politicians?

Nicky91 07-01-2021 09:49 AM



Germany is doing a special broadcast about this, i can translate this tweet

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Special programming: Presented after the violent riots yesterday
@kloeppelpeter
Today at 8:15 p.m. live from Washington the #rtlaktuell special 'Storm to the Capitol - America in Shock'. Asked for interview is foreign minister
@HeikoMaas
. #Washington
.

bots 07-01-2021 09:50 AM

there are 13 days to go yet folks

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980589)
Fair point - where were the authorities when the riots were going on throughout the summer? Did they sit on their hands because it was only normal citizens who were the victims, and not politicians?

The police during BLM protests

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEye7QU...jpg&name=small

The police during yesterdays insurrection

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0FdQfbWKB-Y/hqdefault.jpg

You think BLM would have just been allowed to walk into the building like that with guns?

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10980627)
The police during BLM protests

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEye7QU...jpg&name=small

The police during yesterdays insurrection

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0FdQfbWKB-Y/hqdefault.jpg

You think BLM would have just been allowed to walk into the building like that with guns?

You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

Alf 07-01-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980642)
You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

Because they were told to stand down by Democrat Mayor's.

They even took over a part of Seattle and declared it a Country, with borders.

Kazanne 07-01-2021 10:40 AM

To get things into perspective ,Trumps words were NOT exactly as portrayed,he said "people will walk to Washington" or words to that effect,just another example of twisting his words to suit some of the media,this was debated this morning on the JV show, he never actually told the people to go and riot,that is what I gathered from the debate anyway. he really should just bow out gracefully and go off into the sunset. The people involved should be ashamed of themselves,and conceed that he lost.

user104658 07-01-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10980647)
To get things into perspective ,Trumps words were NOT exactly as portrayed,he said "people will walk to Washington" or words to that effect,just another example of twisting his words to suit some of the media,this was debated this morning on the JV show, he never actually told the people to go and riot,that is what I gathered from the debate anyway. he really should just bow out gracefully and go off into the sunset. The people involved should be ashamed of themselves,and conceed that he lost.

He did, without being explicit. It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack or absence of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions."

Trump relies on this concept a lot.

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980642)
You think the MAGA mob woukd have been allowed to burn their towns to the ground? Why didn't the police actually do anything to stop the riots?

You mean like all the tear gas and dragging folks off in unmarked vehicles by unidentified police officers? There were example of mothers with linked arms being shot with rubber bullets as they sang. This was all in the face of another police brutality incident that kicked the protests off.

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10980650)
dragging folks off in unmarked vehicles by unidentified police officers?

When? The source cited for this seems to be a video of one dude being led away before the vid ends, without showing what happened before or after. There's no proof it was a regular occurence.

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 11:08 AM

Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980654)
Even wkth a few random examples of the police doing things they shouldn't during the riots, they obviously didn't handle them properly, they should never have been allowed to escalate as fwr as they did.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-george-floyd

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...unmarked-cars/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53453077

BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10980648)
He did, without being explicit. It's called plausible deniability.

"Plausible deniability is the ability of people, typically senior officials in a formal or informal chain of command, to deny knowledge of or responsibility for any damnable actions committed by others in an organizational hierarchy because of a lack or absence of evidence that can confirm their participation, even if they were personally involved in or at least willfully ignorant of the actions."

Trump relies on this concept a lot.

You'll never take back your country with weakness - Trump yesterday

Lets have a trial by combat - Giuliani yesterday

Unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10980657)
BLM was the result of decades of abuse, not decades of right-wing white grievance politics.

Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

GiRTh 07-01-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980662)
Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10980664)
Who are you referring to? Who needs to protest peacefully?

The rioters from over the summer and the MAGA thugs.

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10980662)
Doesn't excuse inflicting riots upon innocent people. If they can't protest peacefully, they should take it to the police and lawmakers.

It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.

Oliver_W 07-01-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10980666)
It didn't happen in a vacuum. People have been putting up with this for decades and centuries. After every police murder they were lectured, they were dismissed with blue lives matter and all lives matter. The fact you're both siding this is weird tbh.

It's an easy thing to both-side, people who think it's okay to loot and burn aren't the "good guys", even if there are problems with law enforcement. But if they're gonna use violence, it shouldn't be aimed at innocent people who have nothing to do with their problems.

The Slim Reaper 07-01-2021 11:58 AM




Ramsay 07-01-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the slim reaper (Post 10980660)
you'll never take back your country with weakness - trump yesterday

lets have a trial by combat - giuliani yesterday

unless he said "everyone storm the capitol" then people will cognitive dissonance themselves into oblivion rather than admit they could have been wrong about trump all along.


Oliver_W 07-01-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10980672)



and yet they let the cities burn? the police really does need reforming over there!

SherzyK 07-01-2021 12:05 PM



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