Well suck it up!
The truth is he lied that makes him a liar and we don’t like liars or those that are happy to be lied to.

And are you telling me you didn’t know from the start?

Don’t take the p1ss

No, I didn't know before tonight it was him - I only suspected because of the style of posting (and the username).

OK
Fair enough


It just you would know his location

Even by TiBB standards this thread has been a wild ride in off topicness

The Left Winger Live on LBC

Is now debating Tate

He has a godson under Tates influence,



He said if you are under Tates Spell - Do not call him?


Utter Ponce that Left Winger on LBC


He has been told off by his Boss
so he now takes breaks on time

JOB is an utter ponce and far more people are in thrall of him and his trolling

they do not understand he winds them up about fake "right-wing" stuff for money

he is also angry he was a day bug at a private school and he wasnt rich but most other were

he is obsessed with class, money and the fact he has neither

He makes decent enough points about the Tate-worship but inevitably he starts going off-piste with all the religious stuff.

He probably thinks that you go off-piste with your anti-religious stuff. So you and Shapiro are two peas in a pod.

I wouldn't bring anti-religion into the discussion though because it's not relevant. If you can't make a good moral argument from a stance of rationality and logic and you have to fall back on doctrine, then it's probably not a good point.

He does at least make an attempt to explain why monogamy is part of religious moral doctrine (paternity) but it's not necessary and it takes away from the point itself.

You don't need religion to mount an argument that the disproportionate scorn/disgust placed on female promiscuity while it's excused in men is very likely rooted in historic paternity-anxiety. But you can (if you're non-religious) accept that as a starting point and try to make improvements on the thinking to bring it into a modern context. Heavily religious people struggle to do that, because it's baked into scripture. I think Shapiro probably believes in it genuinely, but you of course also have you Tates who don't believe the scripture at all, but will still highlight and use scripture that benefits their mindset.

Shapiro is Jewish , I don't think it's fair to say it's 'going off topic' . Obviously he's going to have a religious view on things.

However I'm not a Shapiro fan ,I agree with some stuff he says but he gets on my nerves with other stuff .

Andrew Tate is a mysogynist ,the bloke is openly proud of it . He basically thinks women are trash for sleeping around ,yet he thinks it's perfectly fine for him to do the same.

I will never support anything Tate says as he's an arrogant pr1ck ,so Shapiro can analyze it all he wants but at the end of the day Tate is an ugly person inside and out .

I said off-piste, not off topic. He went down a route of logic and then veered off into religion

Shapiro is someone that I personally don't have much in common with, but I think that he knows not to cross the line.

Andrew Tate however I agree with you 100% he is someone that people should be wary of as his mindset is extremely dangerous imo, especially to any potential Incels.

Shapiro operates from a platform of wanting to ultimately appear to be reasonable and professional. Others who were once the same have gradually slipped though - Jordan Peterson, Piers Morgan ... they used to toe that line carefully but step over it frequently these days. Morgan is verging on RW troll at this point, on most topics. Meghan destroyed the poor man without lifting a finger :joker:

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Will Shapiro head down the same route? Who knows. Possibly not, he relies on appearing intellectual for his oratory gravitas where Peterson relies on forceful speech and "word chess", and Morgan just flaps his gums louder and louder.

Tate has been taken to hospital now apparently but not clear why

It hurt itself in its confusion?

Beaten up ?

He's a world champion kickboxer, or was, so i doubt it. And he's rich, people probably work for him inside.

Info is pretty sketchy, there's just been this tweet from whoever is running his account

Taking on 4 police officers
not wise

by now he should be charged?

If Shapiro's schtick is an act then he won't be able to keep it up forever.

As it stands though I find Morgan in particular to be horrendous, and Jordan Petersen I don't really follow much so I can't judge him.

World champion kickboxer means precisely nothing in a real world violent situation - the man is full of hot air about being an "alpha" so in any real prison someone would knock the **** out of him just for the bragging rights.

He was a Champion
some years ago.


He is older now

Champion fighters in sports get their arses handed to them by violent criminals. Its real life.