It is completely unfair once again to shout out orders now it's telling Dezzy to calm down. Like you've done that the whole time you've been in this debate! He was only making a valid point.

Dezzy made a valid point. Angus doesn't know anything about any of our lives and claims that anyones opinion who differs from hers doesn't have 'experience' in life. It wasn't about sob stories.

Agreed. He was perfectly calm and lucid in his comments.

OK and I'm sorry. Tough debate thread I guess and I'm sorry to you too.

Oh, this is a debate that could go round and round in circles for ever!

To summarise before I go to sleepyland: I think the justice system in this country sucks ass, I'm for the death sentence and jail sentences should be made tougher..

Oh and parenthood WILL change your opinions.

Night night Y'all :)

I agree!

You agree with capital punishment? Wonder how many do in here. I don't anyway.

good night.

Thought Dezzy was a woman :blush:

i dont know tbh.

No one knows anything about anyones lives on here

Exactly, so Angus shouldn't be one to judge who has had experience and who hasn't.

So no one should have an opinion on a forum full stop

tbf i think shes going by how most people would act.

Where did I say that?

Angus talks sense..

Night night again :)

She can only go by how she would act.

That's a disingenuous statement - who said anything about killing "suspected" criminals. How about confining punishment to "convicted" ones? I guarantee the country would indeed flourish if we cleared out the PROVEN murderers, rapists and paedophiles.

Since execution is no longer an option, how about actually locking them up and throwing away the key. In fact the shortness of sentences has less to do with the moralistic arguments of being compassionate blah blah blah, and more to do with the economics of keeping these criminals long term in jail. That's the bottom line, and why there is no morality in the judicial system. Criminals who have committed the most horrendous crimes are freed to re-offend because it costs too much to keep them locked up, and since extermination is not an option what else is there?

Not one dissenter on here has given any viable options.

Look, I've apologized to Dezzy. Genuinely never want to upset people

ive got to say your coming up with some class posts today angus58,but another option could be to chop there hands off.

Well there was no need to get sarcastic with me. But whatever.

Right, sorry for blowing up, it wasn't very modlike of me.

At the end of the day I can't agree with capital punishment, it's not how I was raised and it's not what I believe in now I'm older. It doesn't heal any pain and it doesn't give closure it just spreads pain as even the criminals in a lot of cases have innocent parents and family.

To me it's just spreading the pain around.

That's my opinion and it's all I can say at the end of the day.

I didn't :(

The pain will always be there whether there is capital punishment or not.

A murderer.. the LEAST they should have is LIFE in prison!! And they are still better off than the person they actually killed.

theres no need to worry because when theres a debate people get really passionate.

You're human. Mod or not

My emotions are running high this week.

tbh dezzy i thought i could have broken more rules than you on this thread.

The difference is that capital punishment affects a lot more people then imprisonment does. People underestimate how difficult and horrific prison can be.

I think it's a 'touch a nerve' thread really. Always gonna get the blood pumping. Hopefully not one for grudges!

I think it's good that this has simmered down, be good to just forgive and forget I think. Least it's a good'un for brain stimulation haha.

oh yeah with there xbox and playstations.:joker:

Then I would choose Life Imprisonment for them then after thinking about it all.......

Good when threads/people can do that

And other violent criminals that will attack others due to their own warped views of justice. Prison isn't as easy for most as it's made out to be in the media you know.

It's been a good topic really apart from the more rage-y moments :laugh:. As long as we can keep things from being personal when we can it's an interesting topic to debate.

have you been in prison dezzy?

True. If maybe prison life is stayed the same and if it is not turned into something lenient. The short sentences are what is lenient already.

No but I know people who have and I've heard the horror stories and seen the scars. Prison isn't a holiday camp.

I officially slap my own hands.

Oh and to clear up any confusion I'm male :laugh: