What an insensitive person Kay Burley is
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...6pLid%3D130576

She like a sad dog at times

The Police must have known this at least a couple of days or so now then, as I thought it was suspicious when they wanted the public to discontinue their searching in the area, and also when they stated that they just wanted April returned to her family, not that she be found alive? The way they worded stuff made me suspect that they had an inkling that April was dead :( So sad an outcome to all this if she is :( I could not understand also why he would give the little girl a lift in his car when she was already at home? Surely the family must have been informed also? as it would be cruel not to inform them otherwise, leaving them with false hope if they believe April to be dead :( and the press conference being an appeal to find her. It makes me think he had an accomplice then?

Yeah shes really awful

Whether it was him or not, Im sure there was 2 of them. As April was reported to have said 'its ok I know THEM' when getting into the van/landrover/whatever :S

Unless his daughter was there too, weren't they friends? That probably would have come out by now though, I'd imagine it would be easy enough to get the truth out of a little kid

It is so heartbreaking if she said that, not realising anything :( Children are so very trusting, bless them, so it's sad when that trust is taken advantage of :(

I never thought of that actually...it sounds quite bad, but I wonder if his daughter has been questioned, incase this did happen.

The whole thing strikes me as so strange. Why abduct a child in view of witnesses..even if the witness was a 5 year old child

I don't know, maybe he never meant to kill her, maybe he abused her and something went wrong, or maybe it was an accident and he was trying to cover it up?

I just have an awful feeling that the police are putting all their eggs in the wrong basket...and that the person/people who took her is miles away by now and unlikely to be found

I know :( Parents need to be so vigilant in warning their kids about getting into cars with people, even if they know them. I always remember my mother warning me when I was younger and it worked too. I remember walking home from school one day and my friends dad stopped and asked me if I wanted a lift home, I started panicking lol I never got in his car though :laugh:

If he has kidnapped her and then murdered her then he's most likely so messed up in the head and didn't think about any of these things before doing it, what kind of person walks down one of the main roads near the same town he murdered someone in ( if he did ) the day after? it seems like he wasn't bothered about getting arrested

If April is dead, a thought that did cross my mind was as she was abducted, if indeed it was meant to be an abduction? as she was in full view, that he didn't intend to kill her but maybe an accident happened? Not excusing him or whoever else it may be, but as you say it is weird it happened in full view, it could be the reason he wasn't opening up to Police, or that he knows what happened and it is someone close to him who he wants to protect? It's a very perplexing case so far.

I hope not for the parents sake, there would be nothing worse then her never being found

this is one of those that you know wont have a happy ending.
i think one thing we can do on this and other sites across the internet is sign a petition to bring back the death penalty!

What kind of a monster does this to a 5 year old? If it is this guy or if they find someone else, they should never be let out on our streets again, that's for sure.

Is it true that the 'timeline' has changed recently? Just reading through the (huge) DS thread and

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3988

:S

they are monsters but cases like this will happen again!
who ever gets convicted of this will sit in their cell do their sentence get room and board and then get released.

I hadn't heard either of those timelines tbh. I thought it was a neighbour who said it was Bridger? I didn't think they knew that straight off

Anyone guilty of a crime like that shouldn't be allowed walk the streets again and put other children in danger. The justice system is a joke

This is my fear as well, as they cannot find the body so no DNA evidence at this time , there is nothing to solidly connect this guy to the abduction, if they have his van then again maybe DNA evidence that she was in it at some point, but short of that what is driving their suspicions of him ?

Even with this new charge of Suspicion of Murder he cannot be held in custody any longer than 5pm today. The police may try to get another 24 hrs but after that they need to charge him with Murder or release him.

As Vicky said above I hope they are not way off the mark with this guy, as the real abductor may be miles away by now.

Desperately sad story however you look at it.

You think the death penalty would deter future paedophiles? I highly doubt it.

It would certainly keep those convicted off the streets and away from other children though

So does prison.

Yes it does, I'm not saying they should bring back the death penalty at all, I am saying that people guilty of crimes like that should never be put back into society again, more to protect innocent children, rather than to punish the criminal. Unfortunately life in prison rarely means life in prison

For a short time.

Should get life, meaning life. Screw this rehabilitation stuff tbh, prison in my eyes should be for punishment, not rehabilitation which doesnt even work half the time and they go on to offend again.

I agree. They need to sort out the level of risk thing before they're even considered to be let out. That system doesn't seem too good at the moment

Well yes, I think it's pretty much impossible to 'rehabilitate' a Paedophile, if it's there it's there kinda thing. They can only be taught to control the urges. I'd say a lot of them can't...

I'm all for rehabilitation for things like robbery and lesser crimes but paedophilia and murder? I don't think it's worth risking innocent peoples lives on the hope that the rehabilitation has worked and the only way to test it is to send them back out and cross your fingers, not good enough imo

See my post to Vicky

Yes I should have said my post was about more serious crimes such as murder and child abuse...I do believe rehabilitation can work in some cases, but I dont think tis worth the risk in more serious cases.

I can see how some would get angry enough to want the death penalty back, especially if it is someone close to them who has suffered at the hands of evil people, and in their situation to be fair I wouldn't know how I would feel I suppose, but to me the death penalty would be ilike returning to barbaric ways. I agree the system at the moment is too easy on many criminals and a reform is needed, but I don't think the death penalty is the way. I don't think any person has a right to take anothers life. Plus it is a quick way out for those truely evil people around, why should their life end so abruptly when many of those they tortured suffered in so much pain. I know I haven't explained this very well, but it would take far too long to go into it all. It's an indepth subject really.

Story in the sun about a couple trying to entice kids into a blue landrover a day earlier 90 mins drive away from where April was taken. Dont wanna post the link as when people use the sun they tend to get blasted for it :/

Edit screw it. If you dont like the sun (and I dont blame you) dont click the link
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle4572769.ece


Story doesnt mention blue landrover, but this nichola miller posted on the FB page saying

Yeah, like imagine if Ian Brady had got the death penatly? Would've been the easy way out. But instead they've kept him alive by force for years making him suffer and be in the world when he doesn't want to. He has a rather miserable life which I prefer than quick death.

You should post the link, Vicky. I agree that the Sun and a few other rags are scum, but others can make their own minds up on reading the story, even so.

Yes was editing as you posted that :p

If that had happened the day before surely that parents would have reported it to the Police and surely the parents would have been keeping a close eye on their kids while they were out playing :conf:

Sounds like the parents did call the police 'North Wales police were useless and did not take this seriously'

police are always slow

Yeah but would you let your 5 year old play in the streets where some strangers had tried to lure her/her friends into a van the day before? That doesn't make sense

The other attempt happened 90 mins away. Wasnt quite in the same area, dont even know if these other 2 kids/their parents know april/her family.