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Kyle 10-10-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7316573)
I have gathered that you both love kidding around :laugh:, I do like this forum though and it is great that we can all have a laugh amongst the serious side as well. A laugh a day keeps the doctor away.

I may have a look at the creative writing section, have never thought of it before, have you or anyone else written in there at all?

My writings seems to take into account the different change of thought over the years. At one time I was dead set on an idea but gradually it altered, I guess this is all in the art of learning and understanding more as we advance within our own pathways.

It's not an area that sees a lot of traffic but if something takes my fancy I'll read it. It was just a thought maybe in case you didn't wanna put it on serious debates.

kirklancaster 10-10-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7281838)
Now now boys, the meaning of life is 'be excellent to each other' it's the gospel accordint to St Bill and St Ted :laugh:

Another perfect example of synchronicity:

I had just finished a game of 'Battleship' with a friend whose nickname is 'Death' (because of her white Goth style) and I was walking past a four story furniture shop when I heard a load of shouting coming from the second floor. I stopped dead and a Cash Register came hurtling through a second story window in a shower of glass, followed by a divan. An hysterical woman popped her head out of the window as these were falling and shouted at me to grab them. I ignored her, walked on, and just shouted back as they hit the pavement -- "Catch you later Till and Bed". :hehe::hehe:

This is a Joke.

Jules2 10-10-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7316588)
It's not an area that sees a lot of traffic but if something takes my fancy I'll read it. It was just a thought maybe in case you didn't wanna put it on serious debates.

Hi Kyle, if you have time and are interested have a look at my blog, I havent written into it for a few years now but I enjoyed it when I did. There are a couple of my instant theorising in there, it was just things which came into my mind, once I began I continued. I was doing well with onlookers from different parts of the world, as it was new to me I was quite impressed at how it worked.

It was a new venture but sadly everyday life takes over and I havent found the time to go back. We have had a lot of serious illnesses in our famiy but we always come out of it and then we keep our fingers and toes crossed lol. This is why I believe in positive thought and not allowing ourselves to go down.

Not sure if the link will work but here it is, I wont be offended at all if you do not have a look or if you have alternative views to mine, that is what it is all about.

juliaabdey@gmail.com

Jules2 10-10-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7316802)
Hi Kyle, if you have time and are interested have a look at my blog, I havent written into it for a few years now but I enjoyed it when I did. There are a couple of my instant theorising in there, it was just things which came into my mind, once I began I continued. I was doing well with onlookers from different parts of the world, as it was new to me I was quite impressed at how it worked.

It was a new venture but sadly everyday life takes over and I havent found the time to go back. We have had a lot of serious illnesses in our famiy but we always come out of it and then we keep our fingers and toes crossed lol. This is why I believe in positive thought and not allowing ourselves to go down.

Not sure if the link will work but here it is, I wont be offended at all if you do not have a look or if you have alternative views to mine, that is what it is all about.

juliaabdey@gmail.com

Have tried the link and I do not think it works, will have to look again.

Jules2 10-10-2014 09:25 PM

It is a long time since I have been into my blog, I do not think the above will work but I have managed to get back in through typing:-

http://julesabdey.blogspot.co.uk

If you would like to have a look you need to begin at "our innermost thoughts" otherwise you begin at the last entry which was taken over by me having a bit of fun with Reuben's the Royal. My theory was to have serious and light and to try and make it less boring because things do get deep.

Kyle 10-10-2014 10:36 PM

Brilliant jules thankyou.

Jules2 10-10-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7317069)
Brilliant jules thankyou.

You are welcome......

Jules2 11-10-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7316416)
No worries Jules. It's certainly an interesting topic nonetheless. There is so much out there yet to be discovered.

I'm interested in the idea of panspermia in particular now. I was listening to an astronomy podcast the other day and they were talking about bacteria that could survive the vacuum of space and what if it was a meteor that struck the earth all those years ago and 'seeded' the planet with biological material.

Morning Kyle and all, well I have to admit that I had never heard of the word panspermia so I had a look on google. Plenty of info there so I have bookmarked it to go back into later on today.

You know this is the beauty of communication if one is interested in a subject no matter what, one word can lead us onto another interesting track.

Many a time in the past I have had a thought and then something appears to confirm my thought, have you ever just opened a page in a book and found an answer...."just like that"! That little voice which dwells within can help us free ourselves from sin. Mind you what is sin........no, no, no that is another subject......:nono::hehe:

Livia 11-10-2014 10:12 AM

I'm sure it's different for everyone. For me, the best explanation I can offer is, only once you find something you're willing to die for can you truly begin to live.

Kyle 11-10-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7317481)
Morning Kyle, well I have to admit that I had never heard of the word panspermia so I had a look on google. Plenty of info there so I have bookmarked it to go back into later on today.

You know this is the beauty of communication if one is interested in a subject no matter what, one word can lead us onto another interesting track.

Many a time in the past I have had a thought and then something appears to confirm my thought, have you ever just opened a page in a book and found an answer...."just like that"! That little voice which dwells within can help us free ourselves from sin. Mind you what is sin........no, no, no that is another subject......:nono::hehe:

Certainly another topic indeed. :laugh:

One thing I wonder is what direction our species will take when/if we discover life on other planets or star systems. What would life be like for them? Is there a connection between life on earth and life elsewhere in the galaxy. And if we actually discover or are found by a spacefaring intelligent species then imagine all the possibilities for learning our origins.

Though Steven Hawking warns that it is not wise to broadcast our existence to other sentient beings across the galaxy (and in many ways I would be inclined to agree) the sheer curiosity that I feel needs to be sated by discovering we are not alone in the galaxy is just too much to pass on and I hope I'm alive to see this fulfilled.

Kyle 11-10-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7317485)
I'm sure it's different for everyone. For me, the best explanation I can offer is, only once you find something you're willing to die for can you truly begin to live.

Livia can I ask you a personal question?

Livia 11-10-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7317491)
Livia can I ask you a personal question?

I'm not sending you naked pictures, Kyle, stop asking me.

Yes, ask away...

Kyle 11-10-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7317494)
I'm not sending you naked pictures, Kyle, stop asking me.

Yes, ask away...

Lol jeez Livia I got it the third time you told me to ******* off who do u think I am?!


Basically yeh I don't wanna hash up the event in question but I think you know what event I'm on about. When that event happened did you find yourself questioning your faith and outlook on life at all or did your faith give you a little bit of solace?

Livia 11-10-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7317497)
Lol jeez Livia I got it the third time you told me to ******* off who do u think I am?!


Basically yeh I don't wanna hash up the event in question but I think you know what event I'm on about. When that event happened did you find yourself questioning your faith and outlook on life at all or did your faith give you a little bit of solace?

Well, I didn't blame God because I don't believe God has control over everything that happens in this world, over everything that man does. I think if we held God responsible for everything that's happened to our people over the last 5000 years I'm guessing there would be no Jews. Man has free will and acts in evil ways sometimes. I blamed the person who set the device that injured him. I believe categorically that the person responsible will have to account for himself.

Kyle 11-10-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7317507)
Well, I didn't blame God because I don't believe God has control over everything that happens in this world, over everything that man does. I think if we held God responsible for everything that's happened to our people over the last 5000 years I'm guessing there would be no Jews. Man has free will and acts in evil ways sometimes. I blamed the person who set the device that injured him. I believe categorically that the person responsible will have to account for himself.

Thank you Livia, I hope I didn't re-open any old wounds. :love:

Livia 11-10-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7317508)
Thank you Livia, I hope I didn't re-open any old wounds. :love:

No, not at all, Kyle. It was an interesting question.

Jules2 11-10-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7316594)
Another perfect example of synchronicity:

I had just finished a game of 'Battleship' with a friend whose nickname is 'Death' (because of her white Goth style) and I was walking past a four story furniture shop when I heard a load of shouting coming from the second floor. I stopped dead and a Cash Register came hurtling through a second story window in a shower of glass, followed by a divan. An hysterical woman popped her head out of the window as these were falling and shouted at me to grab them. I ignored her, walked on, and just shouted back as they hit the pavement -- "Catch you later Till and Bed". :hehe::hehe:

This is a Joke.

:hehe::hehe: Hi Kirk, talking about synchronicity, would I be correct in using it in the following examples?

Many moons ago when I was deeply involved in meditation and alike, I had an experience whereby I was told that "death" would be at my door. Now I didnt worry because I think if one seeks and then finds one has to sieve the findings out. Death only means change in any case. Well within the next day I had a phone call from a Mrs. De`ath. Well that solved that problem. :cheer2:

In another one, I was told to watch my footwear. Didnt take any notice of it but the next day I visited a friend and fell nearly flat on my face through the sandal and as I walked down her steps. Ouch, I should have listened...:laugh:

Jules2 11-10-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7317490)
Certainly another topic indeed. :laugh:

One thing I wonder is what direction our species will take when/if we discover life on other planets or star systems. What would life be like for them? Is there a connection between life on earth and life elsewhere in the galaxy. And if we actually discover or are found by a spacefaring intelligent species then imagine all the possibilities for learning our origins.

Though Steven Hawking warns that it is not wise to broadcast our existence to other sentient beings across the galaxy (and in many ways I would be inclined to agree) the sheer curiosity that I feel needs to be sated by discovering we are not alone in the galaxy is just too much to pass on and I hope I'm alive to see this fulfilled.

I definitely feel that we are not alone in the galaxy Kyle, many would say that they have been on spaceships. I could go further into this but it is such an extreme thought that some may find it worrying. I wonder if the earth was under threat, how would man deal with it, would we unite all over the earth or would we fight for dominance over another being? Would fear make us fight for our own protection or would we be able to talk on a level of understanding?
No matter what though, we would still have to consider where did the aliens originate from?

Sitchins books cover a lot of things which for me are food for thought.

Many think that the soul goes back to energy, others think that the soul just goes on in the same vein on another dimension. I wonder if it is within our own being which determines our afterlife. Many think that the soul visits other dimensions whilst in our present body/astral travel but also when we leave this vehicle behind permanently. It is possibly a gradual process but I do feel that all will be united from this plane and also from others. Then we will possibly travel on to something far greater? The mind boggles eh!

Jules2 11-10-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7317485)
I'm sure it's different for everyone. For me, the best explanation I can offer is, only once you find something you're willing to die for can you truly begin to live.

That is lovely Livia, the true concept of love.

Kizzy 11-10-2014 01:42 PM

Further to that if you feel strongly enough to die for something or someone then would it not follow that you could kill too?
Many people across the globe are fighting and they ave all been told the same things by their respective superiors.. that what they are doing is for the greater good, for freedom, for their religion or country. All these young men fighting for what they believe is the meaning of life for them, to protect and serve their cause?

Jules2 11-10-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7317720)
Further to that if you feel strongly enough to die for something or someone then would it not follow that you could kill too?
Many people across the globe are fighting and they ave all been told the same things by their respective superiors.. that what they are doing is for the greater good, for freedom, for their religion or country. All these young men fighting for what they believe is the meaning of life for them, to protect and serve their cause?

Ah Kizzy on a far greater level you are correct. I took it though that in this instance the word "die" was just a lighthearted expression of love. I guess Livia will know which way she meant it.

I have written a piece about such a thing in my blog, it involves the nuns who were killed many years ago and the loss of a young lad fighting for his country/beliefs. So many young lives indoctrined for the sake of religion and their ancestors training.

I think if it came down to it we would protect our own within our own surroundings, mind you by todays laws we would be the ones who suffered the penalities of standing up for our rights.

Livia 11-10-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7317792)
Ah Kizzy on a far greater level you are correct. I took it though that in this instance the word "die" was just a lighthearted expression of love. I guess Livia will know which way she meant it.

I have written a piece about such a thing in my blog, it involves the nuns who were killed many years ago and the loss of a young lad fighting for his country/beliefs. So many young lives indoctrined for the sake of religion and their ancestors training.

I think if it came down to it we would protect our own within our own surroundings, mind you by todays laws we would be the ones who suffered the penalities of standing up for our rights.

I meant exactly what I said.

Ninastar 11-10-2014 04:32 PM

oh livia... :love: :hug:

Jules2 11-10-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7317720)
Further to that if you feel strongly enough to die for something or someone then would it not follow that you could kill too?
Many people across the globe are fighting and they ave all been told the same things by their respective superiors.. that what they are doing is for the greater good, for freedom, for their religion or country. All these young men fighting for what they believe is the meaning of life for them, to protect and serve their cause?

This is part of the piece I wrote about when the nuns were killed, it was a sad programme and brought tears to my eyes:-

...................................
Many of us wonder whose side God is on, that is if one believes in God, because on the other hand after Jeannie's murder we had the little boy from El Salvador saying, his soul distraught as he spoke of the guns and the fear he should wrought..

"It is not your country it is not your land,
These are my beloveds I will take their hand
And lead them to safety from the cruelty of living
So don't talk of forgiving as you think of your loved ones
Happy and safe in peaceful surroundings away from strife".

For they raped his country, his ideals, his friends
And he wondered when the plundering would end.
Little soul they shot him and as he sank to the ground
He hoped that in oblivion peace would be found.
................................

Dear little chap on the other side but his feelings were real.

Kizzy 11-10-2014 10:52 PM

My feeling was if they are doing what they believe in their heart is right, is it wrong?

What is wrong is the manipulation by those who for power instill in the population fear.

AnnieK 11-10-2014 11:02 PM

My meaning in life now is simple.........get my son to adulthood as a happy, healthy, well rounded, tolerant and intelligent human being and my job here is done. I will go to my grave (and whatever, if anything is beyond) happy and satisfied

lostalex 12-10-2014 03:19 AM

People always want to find "meaning" in everything. like the people that obsess about the beatles or Led zeplin, they play the records backwards and hear hidden messages. Humans for some reason can't understand the concept of nothingness, of chaos, of just believing what you see. There must be order behind it, there must be something deeper, a secret. And people are rewarded when they think they have discovered something secret, it makes them feel superior to all the other "sheep", it makes them feel special and smart. It's pure ego.

What if it really is all just a Clusterfvc|k? could you handle that reality?

Ammi 12-10-2014 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7319468)
My meaning in life now is simple.........get my son to adulthood as a happy, healthy, well rounded, tolerant and intelligent human being and my job here is done. I will go to my grave (and whatever, if anything is beyond) happy and satisfied

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7319680)
People always want to find "meaning" in everything. like the people that obsess about the beatles or Led zeplin, they play the records backwards and hear hidden messages. Humans for some reason can't understand the concept of nothingness, of chaos, of just believing what you see. There must be order behind it, there must be something deeper, a secret. And people are rewarded when they think they have discovered something secret, it makes them feel superior to all the other "sheep", it makes them feel special and smart. It's pure ego.

What if it really is all just a Clusterfvc|k? could you handle that reality?

..does this not all go back though to the thing that everyone will have their own 'meaning of life' and for some, there will be no meaning at all..for others, the meaning or what defines their life could be bad/evil..or it could be good stuff, wanting to be a better person..wanting to care for the people around you/close to you etc...just whatever meaning someone wants to give it and for whatever their reasons....I don't think that there is a one fits all meaning of life...

Kyle 12-10-2014 06:44 AM

A question I would like to ask the Christians is, does it bother you that some of your friends that you chat to daily on here (and probably in life) are due an eternity in hell after we die? Do you think it's fair that because we reject the idea of Jesus Christ as our lord and saviour that we must be cast down to eternal punishment while you spend you're time playing bingo with the big man? Do you think we deserve that?

lostalex 12-10-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7319756)
..what I don't think is fair is how some people are scoffed at/ridiculed and belittled for their beliefs or religion..beyond that for me and what happens to anyone after they die is only for me to believe of myself and others to believe whatever they do for themselves...it's more to do with 'life' and the 'meaning' of if people believe there is one and what it is for them, rather than death or any 'beyond'....

religion is not special and it doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves. ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. and bigoted hateful ideas should be treated as bigoted hateful ideas and scoffed at and condemned. All major religions are hateful and bigoted, and they deserve all of the opposition they receive.

If religion was just your personal belief then why is it being shoved down our kids throats in school, and shoved down everyone's throats in politics?

rubymoo 12-10-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7319745)
A question I would like to ask the Christians is, does it bother you that some of your friends that you chat to daily on here (and probably in life) are due an eternity in hell after we die? Do you think it's fair that because we reject the idea of Jesus Christ as our lord and saviour that we must be cast down to eternal punishment while you spend you're time playing bingo with the big man? Do you think we deserve that?

This is why i don't believe in heaven and hell, and God, because how can you have someone who believes in God and is a real b@stard in life, and is pretty much guaranteed a place in heaven because they've lived by Gods word (my step mum is one of these people) and then you get a humanitarian who puts their life on the line by helping others basically sacrificing their lives but they don't believe in God so they would go to hell......no no no, this doesn't make sense!

Or a pedophile who turns to God in prison, and becoming born again.....does this wipe his slate clean....no! It can't be like that!

This is why i believe we have our spirit families, and i believe we are energy, i believe i have similar thought processes as Jules, i don't believe in 1 God.

lostalex 12-10-2014 09:02 AM

Nothing about religion makes any sense. There is absolutely no evidence of a loving, kind, fair God anywhere in history. Everything we see in the history of the word is basically a cycle of desperation, rape, survivalism, killing, and more death. 99% of the species that existed on this planet are extinct. please tell me why God made so many species just to make them die?

God must be an evil ****er, cause he seems to like to kill off most of his own creations.

lostalex 12-10-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7319799)
This is why i don't believe in heaven and hell, and God, because how can you have someone who believes in God and is a real b@stard in life, and is pretty much guaranteed a place in heaven because they've lived by Gods word (my step mum is one of these people) and then you get a humanitarian who puts their life on the line by helping others basically sacrificing their lives but they don't believe in God so they would go to hell......no no no, this doesn't make sense!

Or a pedophile who turns to God in prison, and becoming born again.....does this wipe his slate clean....no! It can't be like that!

This is why i believe we have our spirit families, and i believe we are energy, i believe i have similar thought processes as Jules, i don't believe in 1 God.

you are just a bunch of molecules cycling through a system.

Ammi 12-10-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7319798)
religion is not special and it doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves. ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. and bigoted hateful ideas should be treated as bigoted hateful ideas and scoffed at and condemned. All major religions are hateful and bigoted, and they deserve all of the opposition they receive.

If religion was just your personal belief then why is it being shoved down our kids throats in school, and shoved down everyone's throats in politics?

...I don't believe personally that there is 'no place' for anything religious in schools but I also don't say that I believe in religion in schools as such either..it's like anything that you can take something positive from..like say advice or something..?..or those 'self help' type books..?..I'm not sure if this is a good analogy or not but it's like taking the bits you think apply to you or your life philosophies etc ..so with bible stories/moral stories etc ..there is something which can be applicable in teaching and in schools with children..but that isn't as such teaching them 'religion'...I'm not saying that schools don't go further than that/some schools but that's where I personally think it has 'a place' and I don't think that's enforcing any beliefs...and a bit like what Ruby said...I don't believe that people can 'hide' behind religion if they're not good people generally in life and that's something that I have personally experienced, which is why I don't practise a religion but I do believe in the 'good' of people and if practising a religion does help give them some of that 'good'..the it can't be a bad thing...it doesn't for me have to 'make sense' if it's something that you believe in which helps make you a better person because that in itself is what makes the sense...

lostalex 12-10-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7319811)
...I don't believe personally that there is 'no place' for anything religious in schools but I also don't say that I believe in religion in schools as such either..it's like anything that you can take something positive from..like say advice or something..?..or those 'self help' type books..?..I'm not sure if this is a good analogy or not but it's like taking the bits you think apply to you or your life philosophies etc ..so with bible stories/moral stories etc ..there is something which can be applicable in teaching and in schools with children..but that isn't as such teaching them 'religion'...I'm not saying that schools don't go further than that/some schools but that's where I personally think it has 'a place' and I don't think that's enforcing any beliefs...and a bit like what Ruby said...I don't believe that people can 'hide' behind religion if they're not good people generally in life and that's something that I have personally experienced, which is why I don't practise a religion but I do believe in the 'good' of people and if practising a religion does help give them some of that 'good'..the it can't be a bad thing...it doesn't for me have to 'make sense' if it's something that you believe in which helps make you a better person because that in itself is what makes the sense...

There is no evidence that religion makes any one a better person though, there is however plenty of evidence that religion makes some people WORSE people ...hello ISIS, hello homophobes, hello the crusades, hello the spanish inquisition, hello every single woman that's been stoned to death for committing adultery in muslim countries.

Ammi 12-10-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7319816)
There is no evidence that religion makes any one a better person though, there is however plenty of evidence that religion makes some people WORSE people ...hello ISIS, hello homophobes, hello the crusades, hello the spanish inquisition, hello every single woman that's been stoned to death for committing adultery in muslim countries.

..no there is no evidence, Alex...but there are people who do take the good out of what their life beliefs are and that's what I mean..they don't judge and they don't 'condemn' for not having the same beliefs..and they're not prejudice and they don't stone people to death....with the atrocities committed by ISIS, I don't believe that religion is a responsibility but an excuse to carry out these barbaric acts...there is no 'God' there whatsoever...

Jules2 12-10-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7319458)
My feeling was if they are doing what they believe in their heart is right, is it wrong?

What is wrong is the manipulation by those who for power instill in the population fear.

I agree with you totally Kizzy, the young lad in my piece was very young and whilst our nuns had been killed I felt for the young lad who suffered at our hands. I would say that he didnt know any better because of his training. It is a cruel cruel world but he thought he was in the right and he was protecting his earthly "masters" voice.

Jules2 12-10-2014 10:10 AM

One of the greatest sayings is "unto thine own self be true". We all know that we have different views and this is great because we can honour each persons thought. If there is nothing then it wont matter because we wont realise.

On the other hand many have had great experiences which are nothing to do with wishful thinking, they are just that, experiences. Mine came about through prayer when I was truly involved with the thought of a God. It is to long a story to go into but whilst at one time I was possibly looking and searching for help, I began to think of other things, I began to question. I realised that there was a reason for my distress, I began to handle it with a positive thought. The distress is still with me after many years but my thought is fighting for my family who need to be uplifted. We have had many illnesses which have been quite distressing. We therefore feed off of each others positivity. We work as one. Regardless my experiences are real and I will never deny them. It is as though I am in another dimension. I am wise enough to know though that an experience is only an experience to that person, to others it can be deemed rubbish. Seek and yea shall find.

There have been many great teachers over the centuries, people just telling us how to get through the trials and tribulations of life. One of the greatest things is forgiveness, possibly the only reason why we should forgive is to help ourselves because the negativity eats us away. Forgive and let it go, let life sort out the karma of an incident. It is very hard at times to forgive though.

Talking about nothing and just darkness I remember I used to sit in primary school just visualising nothing, what would happen if there was nothing at all. It was an eerie feeling and one which seemed to consume me at that time. My paintings had much black within their outline, but then that tiny spark of light shone through.

There is a thought that as we think on this planet so shall we think in another existence until that little light gives us hope and the spirit can move on. To me hell is just our own thoughts and many a time we can say that the hell is here on earth.

Jules2 12-10-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7319800)
Nothing about religion makes any sense. There is absolutely no evidence of a loving, kind, fair God anywhere in history. Everything we see in the history of the word is basically a cycle of desperation, rape, survivalism, killing, and more death. 99% of the species that existed on this planet are extinct. please tell me why God made so many species just to make them die?

God must be an evil ****er, cause he seems to like to kill off most of his own creations.

I guess it depends on what people want to take out of religion, I had a friend who was over religious but she would spend her time running others down and criticising. I challenged her once with something not on the religious vein but on another, she isnt my friend anymore!! :cheer2: Cant help laughing tbh.

If things rightly uplift then religion works but it possibly depends on how it is used. So much has been laid at its door and many have fallen away from it. I suppose we are beginning to think for ourselves and to realise that we cannot just live by the word of another.

Kyle 12-10-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7319845)
I was not referring specifically to you and therefore am not patronising you Kyle. There are a number of posters, of which you are but one.

That said, I still don't see what you are seeing in the 'time scale' of Ammi's post - I really, genuinely don't.

My perception of Ammi is that she's a poetic dreamer, a gentle soul without a shred of malice in her being.

Mate you can only be talking about me. I'm the only person that reacted.


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