It got 180k on +1 making it 1.11m incl +1

That's a good +1 I think?

So it's still pretty much on a par with BB16. It seems like BB16's first eviction had a bit of an impact on ratings. Hopefully marco goes this week so no more viewers are turned off :laugh:

Yeah same as BB16 last year, which got 1.13M.

Had BB16 gone under a million by this point?

I think the first Saturday show was under 1m

The first Saturday did, yes. It got 750k. This series hasn't yet.

The first Saturday was a mess, it got 750K, which is 350K lower than the first BB17 Sat rating.

Slay everyone thank Charlie for bringing these figures in

I'm just looking at BB15's ratings as it launched similar time to BB17 and it's ratings are all over the place.

for example,

week 1:
Sun - 1.5M
Mon - 1.2M
Thursday - 1.03M
Friday - 990K

week 2:
Mon - 1.4M
Tuesday 1.2M

Not as bad in week 2/3/4 but it get's random again in

week 5:
Sun - 1.15M
Mon - 1.4M
Tues - 1.10M

Big brother 990k exc +1

Big brother the live twist 890k exc +1

yeah i agree, if marco goes this week, that would be good for the viewers, if he won't then some viewers will turn off i think :)

1.2M inc +1 (5.6%)

120K up on last years equivalent (1..08)

First Tuesday ratings:

BB14 - 1.42M
BB15 -1.3M
BB16 - 1.08M
BB17 - 1.2M

Really hoping that it holds up :fc:

As long as they continue to have reasonable production, I want this series to rate higher than BB16. BB16 deserves to stay as the lowest rated series of all time!

People are going to be dicks tomorrow though and not watch tonight out of some sort of spite towards channel 5. :bored:

Yeah it's holding up really well considering LI gets like 800K views now. It's a really good series so far.

CH5 will be pleased with around 1.2M most nights.

LI and the Euros will be over in a few weeks so it will be interesting to see how it does.

Good that's it's up on last year.

Tonight is a tricky one. On a negative side everyone was so seriously fumed about last night. On the plus it's on at 10pm and doesn't face the Euro's or LI.

So perhaps 1.2-1.3m?

You gotta be pretty sad if you boycott a show because of a technical failure

I agree, it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the series, it's who ever was controlling it.

Like I'm still loving this series.

This but Twitter is full of complete and utter morons

Some of them are ridiculous, like there still moaning about it an hour after it's finished :o

Facebook was even worse. I feel so sorry for the digital team tbh

Glad it still hasn't dipped below a million :clap1:

Oh I didn't look much at FB, I swear other shows don't get this amount of moaning :laugh:

People just need to turn it off if they feel the need rant every night.

1.09M excluding +1 (6.8%)

Wow, that's pretty good right?

:clap1:

yeah, should get at least 1.2M with +1

This years series is currently averaging the same overnight average as powertrip was this far in. 100k up on timebomb (1.24m, 1.14m)

I imagine the officials will be quite high this year its doing well considering its up against so much competition with football and Love Island amongst other stuff. Even though its been a mess this year seems so raw and BB5'esque and the headlines its generating is the most a civilian series has had in years with the likes of The Sun actually having exclusive stories of housemates before they entered the house just like back in the day Andrew has made over 100k on newspaper interviews alone so theres major interest and its great to see BB back making headlines. Anyone got the +1 figure yet?

It'll probably be the old reliable 1.2m. One thing that can be said for BB is at least it's consistent

Also what I don't understand is why is Love Island seen as a huge success when it doesn't hit a million viewers yet BB gets well over a million and people complain its not doing well? BB really does have so much scrutiny from complaints for bad behavior when the likes of Geordie Shore and Love Island show actual sex and much more outrageous behavior imo without contestants getting warnings. BB fans are the shows worst enemy, I don't understand why they watch if they get so easily offended. Just sit back and enjoy and if you don't like what you see pick up the remote and watch David Attenborough or something. Its mad how it doesn't rate anywhere near what it used to but is allways the most complained about show every year.

I agree with this. Geordie Shore is regarded as the most successful reality TV show on TV - but gets similar ratings to BB? (BB generally gets higher but is seen as a flop). The thing is, BB never had that big of an audience anyway (5 million was really nothing in 2002/2004) so as it's shed it's audience over the years the figure has got smaller and makes it look bad. The fact is the soaps used to get 14/15 million a night and now get 5-6 million a night and are still regarded as a success even though they've dropped more ratings than BB. I think BB's ratings are healthy for this day and age.

i think the ratings will be better if Marco is evicted this Friday :)

And CBB3 got an average of 4.3 million viewers in 2005 - CBB15 got an average of 3.1 million viewers in 2015. Is a 1 million viewer drop in a decade even that much of a big deal? (I know CBB is higher rated than BB but still is a 3 million viewer drop from BB7 to BB17 even that much - less people are watching TV these days then those days?)

I'd say that the reason Love Island/Geordie Shore are both considered successes is because they're both on digital channels (ITV2/MTV) which have a much lower scope and lower budgets - they're both easily the highest rating shows on their respective channels (not to mention the fact that Geordie Shore is exported to a lot of other countries around the world and Love Island had a very large promotional campaign).

Big Brother could be considered less successful because Channel 5 is a PSB that has a much larger budget and scope than both of the former channels, and it has other shows that rate much higher than Big Brother (The X-Files was reaching up to 4 million viewers when it was on).

I still have no idea how TV ratings are measured.

I think Love Island is as a success this year because last year it's ratings were 3-500k and this year they have literally doubled. And it's on ITV 2.
For Big Brother, a show that averaged 1.6, 1.6, 1.9 & 1.6m viewers over the past 4 years, dropping to 1.4m last year did seem like a fail. But that's why this year should be seen as a real success since it's s back up!

I guess it's because LI is on ITV2 and he audience "reach" is like only like two thirds of C5's audience "reach".