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bots 17-11-2019 06:25 PM

Trump went for an unscheduled medical check yesterday, sounds like the stress is having an effect

GiRTh 17-11-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10713825)
Trump went for an unscheduled medical check yesterday, sounds like the stress is having an effect

He must be exhausted. On the attack every day, attacking Yovanaovitch while she's testifying, attacking the whistle blower and Pelosi and Schiff and anyone who dares to say anything negative. Its attack after attack so I'm not surprised he needs medical help.

GiRTh 18-11-2019 05:31 PM

Trump attacks Vice Presidents aide who's going to testify tomorrow. He's attacked both women testifying, none of the men.

So far no word from VP Mike Pence defending his aide.

The Slim Reaper 18-11-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10715027)
Trump attacks Vice Presidents aide who's going to testify tomorrow. He's attacked both women testifying, none of the men.

So far no word from VP Mike Pence defending his aide.

He's in danger of being replaced by Nikki Haley, so he definitely won't speak in her defence now.

Twosugars 18-11-2019 05:35 PM

Impeachment inquiry is examining whether he lied to Mueller investigation

The Slim Reaper 18-11-2019 05:38 PM

Spoiler:

He did

GiRTh 18-11-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10715032)
He's in danger of being replaced by Nikki Haley, so he definitely won't speak in her defence now.

I bet there was time when Pence actually thought he had a shot at the White House and Trump would either be impeached out or they'd invoke the 25th. I remember there was much speculation that the 'Anonymous' writing for the NYTimes was a top Pence aide or Pence himself. So sweet to see his shot at power gradually fade, he's even more scary than Trump IMO

Agree he wont say anything, far too much to lose.

Twosugars 18-11-2019 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10715034)
Spoiler:

He did

:omgno: well, I never...

GiRTh 18-11-2019 05:45 PM

In writing too :laugh:

GiRTh 19-11-2019 05:43 PM



Another witness attacked while testifying.

Great display from Vindman today. Reps tried to smear him and i think he shook a couple of times but came out of it looking far more patriotic than Jordan, Nunes et al.

GiRTh 19-11-2019 05:46 PM



Line of the day

bots 19-11-2019 05:59 PM

i thought it was pretty damning testimony. It all builds up to an overwhelming picture

GiRTh 19-11-2019 06:09 PM

It does.. Its not done yet though, two more just turned up. Volker and Morrison this afternoon.

That quote from the White House comes from Morrison yet my understanding is that Morrison is going to be highly critical of Trump. Why post that quote in morning when the same guy is gonna trash Donnie in the afternoon. Confirmed - GOP has not strategy.

bots 20-11-2019 01:17 PM

Sondlands testimony is pure gold ... all was done at the express direction of the president

“Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States,” Sondland said. “We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani. Simply put, we played the hand we were dealt. We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose an important opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine. So we followed the President’s orders.”

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

Kizzy 20-11-2019 01:29 PM

Why can't we have whistle-blowers and impeachment? :bawling:

GiRTh 20-11-2019 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10716558)
Sondlands testimony is pure gold ... all was done at the express direction of the president

“Secretary Perry, Ambassador Volker and I worked with Mr. Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States,” Sondland said. “We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani. Simply put, we played the hand we were dealt. We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose an important opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine. So we followed the President’s orders.”

“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland’s statement says. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

Guiliani thrown under the bus. Yesterday Volker was walking a very fine line between not lying and putting everything on Rudy. Volker was quite slippery but he did say the allegations against Biden are nonsense.

Surely Rudy's gonna try and clear his name or he's going to be facing charges

Kizzy 20-11-2019 01:41 PM

I'm sure I read he has some 'insurance' that protected him... he said it in a very 'goodfellas' way too... oh dear donnie.

GiRTh 20-11-2019 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10716586)
I'm sure I read he has some 'insurance' that protected him... he said it in a very 'goodfellas' way too... oh dear donnie.

He's said it a few times but knowing Rudy he's probably lying. :laugh: If he's got the goods on Trump I hope he spills but I think he'd have done so already if he truly has a defense.

If all implicated think they're getting a pardon, think again. This will drag on so long Trump will probably be out of office and on similar charges

Ammi 20-11-2019 01:59 PM

...wow, this is real grown up stuff ...Ambassador Sondland is mesmerising...

Ammi 20-11-2019 02:06 PM

...why do people of their standing, communicate official stuff on WhatsApp groups..?...

Twosugars 20-11-2019 02:09 PM

Wonder if donnie's fat tissue is also orange? :think:

GiRTh 20-11-2019 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10716609)
...why do people of their standing, communicate official stuff on WhatsApp groups..?...

Good question. They're the keystones cops of Ambassadors. :laugh:

Ammi 20-11-2019 02:11 PM

...’everyone knows the President likes to use colourful language..’...:laugh:..

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10716604)
...wow, this is real grown up stuff ...Ambassador Sondland is mesmerising...

wring yer knickers out, you hussy

bots 20-11-2019 03:08 PM

i wouldn't trust Sondland at all, but he is an appointee that Trump personally employed ... think he will be next on the .... "don't know him" list :laugh:

Twosugars 20-11-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10716634)
wring yer knickers out, you hussy

Ammi has a baldie fetish :shocked:

GiRTh 20-11-2019 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10716659)
i wouldn't trust Sondland at all, but he is an appointee that Trump personally employed ... think he will be next on the .... "don't know him" list :laugh:

Donnies already said he only met Sondland a 'few times'. :laugh:

Sondland seems like he doesnt care. He could have not testified at all or pleaded the fifth but instead he's dragging them all under the bu with him. He's said everyone was in the loop so that must include VP Pence and SoS Pompeo. They need to respond. It also means Volker may have lied yesterday.

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10716664)
Donnies already said he only met Sondland a 'few times'. :laugh:

Sondland seems like he doesnt care. He could have not testified at all or pleaded the fifth but instead he's dragging them all under the bu with him. He's said everyone was in the loop so that must include VP Pence and SoS Pompeo. They need to respond. It also means Volker may have lied yesterday.

He had to testify, because his previous deposition has been debunked in areas, so he'd be at risk of perjuring himself.

This is the best comedy I've seen in a while though.

Ammi 20-11-2019 03:26 PM

..I think the report was that Pompeo is going to make a statement from Brussels in the next hour...?..

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10716668)
..I think the report was that Pompeo is going to make a statement from Brussels in the next hour...?..

He wants to resign and go back to the senate, so wouldn't be surprised if its do with that. He's going to have a tough ride getting back to the senate after this investigation is all over.

GiRTh 20-11-2019 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10716667)
He had to testify, because his previous deposition has been debunked in areas, so he'd be at risk of perjuring himself.

This is the best comedy I've seen in a while though.

True, there was speculation that it'd be pure theater today and Sondland would refuse to answer almost all the questions, would be constantly talking to his lawyer and was only going to clear up the edited part of his previous testimony. Not at all, he's up there chatting away. I wasnt expecting this at all. He doesnt care who he implicates.

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 03:30 PM

Republicans don't want to talk about his testimony, it's all about 2016 and the steele dossier that was actually started by trumps rivals in the republican primary campaign.

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10716671)
True, there was speculation that it'd be pure theater today and Sondland would refuse to answer almost all the questions, would be constantly talking to his lawyer and was only going to clear up the edited part of his testimony. Not at all, he's up there chatting away. I wasnt expecting this at all. He doesnt care who he implicates.

It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.

Ammi 20-11-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10716674)
It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.

...like a house of cards scenario..if they tumble, they’ll tumble together..?..

GiRTh 20-11-2019 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10716674)
It's getting to the stage, where if you're not implicating others you're going to be the one implicated. People will get more desperate the more damning this gets.

Hope you're right. The bigger the cluster****** the better, hope they all fall. Sondland will be mercilessly attacked on Fox now and for the foreseeable future. I feel for him cuz it'll be brutal.

The Slim Reaper 20-11-2019 04:02 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ1Ltg-X...g&name=360x360

GiRTh 20-11-2019 04:27 PM


GiRTh 20-11-2019 04:33 PM

Rudy trying to stand tall.

Looks like no one knew Sondland even though he donated a million to Trumps inauguration campaign. :think:

GiRTh 20-11-2019 06:50 PM

:laugh:

Twosugars 20-11-2019 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10716698)

:laugh:


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