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Oliver_W 05-10-2020 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10929514)
All I see is people defending someone who killed two people and then getting precious over people enjoying the thought of Trump dying. The difference between the two is that the little white supremacist murdered two people, hoping someone dies is a lot less worse and less deadly. I just wished the White Supremacist wished people dead instead of actually killing them.
He's not been proven as a white supremacist. If he is, he's the worst one ever - he only killed white guys, one of whom was a threat to him :hehe: Outright murderer or not, I agree he should have stayed at home and should be punished for killing them. But it seems more that he was huffing his own farts and thought he was a hero defending businesses against the rioters, rather than a murderous white supremacist. If he were the latter, I think his kill-list would look rather different!

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Also, AOC is a female POC left wing politician that regularly runs rings around republicans, she definitely gets death threats. A death threat is something more serious than a wish. Hoping someone dies, regardless of morality is just a hope. Telling someone you're going to kill them is a threat.
I didn't realise she was getting death threats, that's obviously out of order. I don't know how "good" she is at debates etc, she's just another politician across the pond as far as I'm concerned.

But the hope thing? The way I see it. not particularly caring is ... fine? He's not a dictator of a fascist/communist/caliphate/whatever state, so caring enough to actively want him dead is a bit much. But I don't know him, I'm not American, so I'm not desperate for him to live either.

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I know there's people that wish me dead and I just blow a kiss to them and tell them I'll live to spite them. It's meaningless, really.
I really doubt that. Unless you build a friendship with someone, you're just a name on a screen. If anyone says they want you dead, they're either trolling or deeply disturbed and the issue is with them.
Edit: duh, it jist occurred to me you probably mean people you know IRL. None of my beeswax but it still says more about them than it does you

Barry. 05-10-2020 10:11 PM
Why is he going back to work? He will give it to his workers, nasty

Tom4784 06-10-2020 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10929533)
He's not been proven as a white supremacist. If he is, he's the worst one ever - he only killed white guys, one of whom was a threat to him :hehe: Outright murderer or not, I agree he should have stayed at home and should be punished for killing them. But it seems more that he was huffing his own farts and thought he was a hero defending businesses against the rioters, rather than a murderous white supremacist. If he were the latter, I think his kill-list would look rather different!


I didn't realise she was getting death threats, that's obviously out of order. I don't know how "good" she is at debates etc, she's just another politician across the pond as far as I'm concerned.

But the hope thing? The way I see it. not particularly caring is ... fine? He's not a dictator of a fascist/communist/caliphate/whatever state, so caring enough to actively want him dead is a bit much. But I don't know him, I'm not American, so I'm not desperate for him to live either.


I really doubt that. Unless you build a friendship with someone, you're just a name on a screen. If anyone says they want you dead, they're either trolling or deeply disturbed and the issue is with them.
Edit: duh, it jist occurred to me you probably mean people you know IRL. None of my beeswax but it still says more about them than it does you
I don't care about the murderer's intent, he's a white supremacist and a murderer and, now, living proof of Right Wing hypocrisy.

Trump is responsible for 200k covid deaths in his own country and he shrugged when asked about the number and said 'it is what it is'. He also weaponised said virus politically and spread misinformation that would only jack up that number further. He's as responsible for as many deaths this year as your typical dictators.

Let's not even get into the human rights abuse. If someone hopes he dies or delights when he does, then that's perfectly fine with me because people died under his leadership, people have lost someone they can never get back just so Trump can blame everyone but himself for a crisis he basically allowed to happen. Trump's every bit the monster as any other fascist in the world and if people will delight in the prospect of his death, let them.

arista 06-10-2020 08:01 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/131CF/pro...14778287_i.jpg

caprimint 06-10-2020 09:03 AM
He's out of hospital!!! :amazed:

Nicky91 06-10-2020 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10929659)
He's out of hospital!!! :amazed:
not something to be happy about, he should still be in hospital

3 day miracle recoveries with this virus simply do not exist

Tom4784 06-10-2020 09:59 AM
He was visibly struggling to breath in front of the White House. He obviously left hospital before he was supposed to and now he'll infect more people no doubt because that's more convenient to him than quarantining.

Niamh. 06-10-2020 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10929668)
He was visibly struggling to breath in front of the White House. He obviously left hospital before he was supposed to and now he'll infect more people no doubt because that's more convenient to him than quarantining.
Most likely, what a guy ..........

Vanessa 06-10-2020 10:03 AM
Yeah, I get the feeling he left hospital too soon.

bots 06-10-2020 10:40 AM
i think we have to remember that trump being discharged from hospital is not the same as us being discharged. He went to a medical suite with 24 hour care. The only difference is the amount of high tech equipment they have to hand at hospital and i'm betting Trump has requested most of that stuff for his own private use .... no one can say no after all

caprimint 06-10-2020 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10929660)
not something to be happy about, he should still be in hospital

3 day miracle recoveries with this virus simply do not exist
He was in for more than 3 days.

Anyway, just goes to show what a real FIGHTER he is :clap1:

Nicky91 06-10-2020 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10929686)
He was in for more than 3 days.

Anyway, just goes to show what a real FIGHTER he is :clap1:
no he wasn't, it was 3 days in hospital

tested positive for covid on October 2

out of hospital on October 5

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 12:01 PM

Nicky91 06-10-2020 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929721)
orange moronic pathological liar in action


i'm starting to doubt that he had covid in the first place, nice little publicity stunt again for him

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 12:12 PM
Nice that Donald was treated so well as he received his socialist medicine, whilst at the same time he's trying to take capitalist healthcare away from millions. He gets all that for the pitiful $750 taxes he pays every year.

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10929723)
orange moronic pathological liar in action


i'm starting to doubt that he had covid in the first place, nice little publicity stunt again for him
Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?

Nicky91 06-10-2020 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929737)
Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?
no, more saying Trump himself has been lying (wouldn't be the first time honestly)

i mean doctors can easily say his fever ''dropped'' or also being able to breathe on his own, if he ain't got covid

and yes tests could be faulty, or at least we never got to see that covid-test of his so we gotta believe his word, and i personally do never believe Trump

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929737)
Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?
These are the same doctors that didn't reveal the full picture the other day to protect donalds ego. They still won't say when he was first diagnosed or answer many of the outstanding questions people have.

I don't agree, as you can see him clearly struggling to breath in his tough guy mask removal scene, but it's noty beyond the realms of possibility, especially when his previous white house Dr said he was 6'3 and 200lbs, which I think anyone can tell is a lie. Also his medical statement before the election could have been written in crayon, it was so obviously dictated by the trump campaign. Lying for trump is a career at this stage.

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10929751)
These are the same doctors that didn't reveal the full picture the other day to protect donalds ego. They still won't say when he was first diagnosed or answer many of the outstanding questions people have.

I don't agree, as you can see him clearly struggling to breath in his tough guy mask removal scene, but it's noty beyond the realms of possibility, especially when his previous white house Dr said he was 6'3 and 200lbs, which I think anyone can tell is a lie. Also his medical statement before the election could have been written in crayon, it was so obviously dictated by the trump campaign. Lying for trump is a career at this stage.
it would be impossible to keep that a secret and doctors lying about a serious medical condition? - nope

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929755)
it would be impossible to keep that a secret and doctors lying about a serious medical condition? - nope
Not really impossible, but I agree it's extremely unlikely. Like I say, I'm sure he has it, but when Trump tells in excess of 10k lies in just under 4 years in office, then it's not really surprising that everything he says or claims is met with scepticism. Otherwise the boy who cried wolf would just be a fairy story and not a parable.

bots 06-10-2020 12:48 PM
it's a banana republic administration with zero credibility. The doctors were performing to an audience of one when they did their press conferences. They also quoted privacy at any bad issues but were happy to discuss good aspects ... they dodged answering and obfuscated ... is it any wonder people have no faith in what they hear

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 12:49 PM
I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929779)
I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.
Do you think a putin-esque propaganda video of Obama disembarking from marine one, and ripping his mask off whilst he's still highly contagious and around people would have happened? Do you think Obama would have forced his secret service agents into a confined space with him, so he could take drive to massage his ego?

Of course Obamas administration would have put a positive spin on it, but trump has presided over 200k deaths and gives himself an A+ for the way he's handled the pandemic. There are levels.

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 01:25 PM
Whatever side you're on, I think everyone can agree that this is a pretty powerful ad.

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 02:40 PM
Gutfeld on the media's response to Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis
 
Youtube video


makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929845)

makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up
One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10929852)
One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.
a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 03:08 PM

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 03:09 PM

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929854)
a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business
Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?

MTVN 06-10-2020 03:12 PM
A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump

Crimson Dynamo 06-10-2020 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10929860)
Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?
The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.

bots 06-10-2020 03:17 PM
trump knows he is behind in the polls, so this is his make or break strategy to turn it around. If he agreed with the dems now, he would be admitting they were right all along so that's just not a route he can take at this stage. the one he has chosen is his only path as he had already bet everything on it.

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929868)
The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.
I disagree with ruining peoples property and looting, but I understand how it got to that point. Nothing happens in a vacuum, lt, and treating things as if they do, just misses the point of pretty much everything.

I mean if we want to go down the laws are laws argument then pretty sure you were cheering on Dominic cummings, and when the government tried to illegally prorogue parliament, I don't ever recall you calling them louts and criminals. I've also no doubt you could find me doing exactly the same thing.

We're all hypocrites because we're all human

Nicky91 06-10-2020 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929856)
thanks for this piece of information what we all already knew :bored:

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929857)
why mention it again and again, this lie is becoming more ridiculous now

Kizzy 06-10-2020 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10929862)
A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump
It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 04:36 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/0e7f...temid=12895248

The Slim Reaper 06-10-2020 05:19 PM
Trump needs to be careful.

Oliver_W 06-10-2020 05:19 PM
My mum said something interesting - if it was a mild dose, or at least one he shrugs off easily, it'll reinforce the idea that Covid is really minor. She's not a psycho so she didn't wish him dead or to be floored long term, but she hopes it's bad enough for him not to dismiss it :laugh:

DouglasS 06-10-2020 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10929857)
:clap1:

My flatmate had it and it Was just a cough. His mother who is 60 caught it off him and had a sore tummy for one day (I know 60 isn’t elderly, but it’s still higher risk).

I understand everyone is different but it has been vastly blown out of proportion for being a deadly lethal disease.

It has a death rate of like 0.1%, and so unless you are vulnerable it’s extremely extremely unlikely to impact you at all.

If people choose to be unhealthy then they are at worse risk, but people making the choice to eat badly/not exercise/stay fit shouldn’t allow the rest of society to suffer imo


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