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GiRTh 11-07-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071744)
Chellini was their centre back and he was playing in our half for most of the second half. We went far too deep and invited the danger. We should have brought a Grealish of Foden on earlier to give their team something to think about, their defence had it too easy.

Strange the way Southgate uses him. He carries the ball , he gets up field, he wins fouls. The moment I saw us getting behind the ball at the start the 2nd half. We needed Grealish to keep the ball and not let Italy dominate possession. I hated those tactics, but the team did well and will be back

Denver 11-07-2021 10:31 PM

The players who allowed Saka to take the 5th penalty are also a disgrace a Young Boy who never taken a penalty was used as a scape goat incase we lost, the more experienced players should have stepped up ahead of him

Vanessa 11-07-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071751)
The players who allowed Saka to take the 5th penalty are also a disgrace a Young Boy who needed taken a penalty was used as a scape goat incase we lost, the more experienced players should have stepped up ahead of him

Sterling should have talent it.

Calderyon 11-07-2021 10:37 PM

Imo if you have scored even a single goal in the tournament and you are fit, you should be a default choice for penalty kick comps.

Amy Jade 11-07-2021 10:38 PM

This is what I'll remember from the match

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1626039847666

Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071746)
I've always been vocal about belive Southgate isn't the one and the is why he goes missing in the big games and has lost every tournament game against very strong opposition you don't win anything by just beating the weak teams you have to turn up against the heavyweights

Denmark, Germany, and Croatia aren't "weak" teams.

Alf 11-07-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071751)
The players who allowed Saka to take the 5th penalty are also a disgrace a Young Boy who needed taken a penalty was used as a scape goat incase we lost, the more experienced players should have stepped up ahead of him

A good experience for Saka, if his attitude is right, then he'll be fine.

If he's ever in that situation again, he'll know how bad it feels to miss and be determined to put it right.

Denver 11-07-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11071754)
This is what I'll remember from the match

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1626039847666

Nothing new, I knew it would go without serious punishment as the Italians love to cheat and foul and get away with stuff

Zizu 11-07-2021 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071680)
Far too negative when we took the lead, the best team won.

Kane and Rice were superb, Walker was as good as ever.


Yep

All that talent on the bench..

Southgate is not good enough to make the most of the squad’s ability

I hope he resigns in the coming days ..
He’s gonna get slaughtered in the media , I think


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Zizu 11-07-2021 10:41 PM

Best team won ...


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UserSince2005 11-07-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071757)
Nothing new, I knew it would go without serious punishment as the Italians love to cheat and foul and get away with stuff

The Italian mentality is that rules are there to be broken. It’s they same with everything in Italian life

Denver 11-07-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071755)
Denmark, Germany, and Croatia aren't "weak" teams.

Denmark and Croatia are levels below the England squad and Germy are a team in major transition who have been on a down fall for a while


England had the easiest run to the final Italy were the strongest team and we failed, the fact the world so called best striker can't get past 2 men put on day release from a care home is a joke

Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11071758)
Yep

All that talent on the bench..

Southgate is not good enough to make the most of the squad’s ability

I hope he resigns in the coming days ..
He’s gonna get slaughtered in the media , I think


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If it weren't for Southgate we would still be losing to teams like Iceland.

Smithy 11-07-2021 10:47 PM

Guess footballs going to Rome

Alf 11-07-2021 10:48 PM

Still, it was a bit of excitement to pass the time. Back to the real World now

Alf 11-07-2021 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 11071763)
Guess footballs going to Rome

Will somebody hurry up and find this persons coat.

Calderyon 11-07-2021 10:49 PM

Gareth Southgate has managed England to their first final in 55 years (54) in a major competition, so i think he should be fine?

Denver 11-07-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071762)
If it weren't for Southgate we would still be losing to teams like Iceland.

There are so many better more qualified managers our there who would use the talents of the players well yet they only want yes men I charge

Amy Jade 11-07-2021 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071757)
Nothing new, I knew it would go without serious punishment as the Italians love to cheat and foul and get away with stuff

I don't watch tbf so know nothing but I was shocked how dirty their players were. They were fouling, getting yellow carded and then subbed so a new one could come on and start fouling.

He literally choked Saka here where was the red card?

Mitchell 11-07-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11071678)
If only rashford has spent less time talking about school dinner and more time learning to kick a ball in a straight line. What a pathetic man.

How dare he care about starving children when he could be practising kicking a ball around to make bald middle aged thugs happy

Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071761)
Denmark and Croatia are levels below the England squad and Germy are a team in major transition who have been on a down fall for a while


England had the easiest run to the final Italy were the strongest team and we failed, the fact the world so called best striker can't get past 2 men put on day release from a care home is a joke

Croatia are still the World Cup Runner-up (beating us if I remember correctly) so they're not exactly "levels" below us.

And Denmark are in the top 10 in the FIFA rankings aren't they?

Germany you have a point tbf.

And Kane scored in the penalty shootout, plus if Southgate had've done such a bad tactical job against Italy then it wouldn't have gone to penalties imo.

The only mistake I think that Southgate made was his choices on who he had take the penalties (even Maguire was a gamble) but to me anyone expecting England to play like Real Madrid against Italy were getting too carried away imo.

Denver 11-07-2021 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071762)
If it weren't for Southgate we would still be losing to teams like Iceland.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071771)
Croatia are still the World Cup Runner-up (beating us if I remember correctly) so they're not exactly "levels" below us.

And Denmark are in the top 10 in the FIFA rankings aren't they?

Germany you have a point tbf.

And Kane scored in the penalty shootout, plus if Southgate had've done such a bad tactical job against Italy then it wouldn't have gone to penalties imo.

The only mistake I think that Southgate made was his choices on who he had take the penalties (even Maguire was a gamble) but to me anyone expecting England to play like Real Madrid against Italy were getting too carried away imo.

The game was full of mistakes, we didn't have a shot inside the box so we should have brought another forward on, we lacked creativity so why wait till very very late to bring on Grealish when he should have been on arounf the 60 mins Mark

Alf 11-07-2021 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 11071769)
How dare he care about starving children when he could be practising kicking a ball around to make bald middle aged thugs happy

The very, very, very large majority of humans care about not starving children, Rashford isn't unique just because he's presented with a platform to inform us all how much he cares.

Alf 11-07-2021 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 11071769)
How dare he care about starving children when he could be practising kicking a ball around to make bald middle aged thugs happy

Plumber messes up his job.

Well, I care about starving children, so that exempts me from criticism of my job.

GoldHeart 11-07-2021 11:07 PM

Argh what ashame,but I could see this coming once it went to painful penalities .

MTVN 11-07-2021 11:08 PM

Well I feel that same combination of pride and emptiness that I felt in 2018

Tonight's not the time for navel gazing or asking where we went wrong, in the end it came down to a coin flip. Feel so much love for this team and their humbleness, their effort and their collective ambition

Hell of a ride this summer has been, every match has been a great time and I've loved talking about it all with you guys on here - the football section has been carrying this forum the last 4 weeks :flutter:

Can't begrudge Italy at all as they've been brilliant all tournament, congrats Ness

Mystic Mock 11-07-2021 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11071772)
The game was full of mistakes, we didn't have a shot inside the box so we should have brought another forward on, we lacked creativity so why wait till very very late to bring on Grealish when he should have been on arounf the 60 mins Mark

Maybe he was scared that England would lose in normal time if Grealish was brought on earlier?

Also Italy weren't gonna just let us start attacking in their half, maybe they were better as a team than us? Italy's not the kinda team where Southgate/England can just click their fingers and start dominating Italy, whether Grealish was on or not.

Btw Grealish didn't do anything when he came on anyway, it feels like the Media's spreading this Myth that Grealish was gonna be our lord and saviour, but what did he honestly do this tournament?

Cherie 11-07-2021 11:10 PM

Congratulations Ness :love:

The tension :omgno:

MTVN 11-07-2021 11:10 PM

Been reminding everyone tonight that this is just the Euros - it's not the World Cup which is truly the greatest tournament on earth

Already can't wait for next winter

Alf 11-07-2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071776)
Well I feel that same combination of pride and emptiness that I felt in 2018

Tonight's not the time for navel gazing or asking where we went wrong, in the end it came down to a coin flip. Feel so much love for this team and their humbleness, their effort and their collective ambition

Hell of a ride this summer has been, every match has been a great time and I've loved talking about it all with you guys on here - the football section has been carrying this forum the last 4 weeks :flutter:

Can't begrudge Italy at all as they've been brilliant all tournament, congrats Ness

How proud of Rice were you tonight? He was immense, ran himself into the ground.

Cherie 11-07-2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11071777)
Maybe he was scared that England would lose in normal time if Grealish was brought on earlier?

Also Italy weren't gonna just let us start attacking in their half, maybe they were better as a team than us? Italy's not the kinda team where Southgate/England can just click their fingers and start dominating Italy, whether Grealish was on or not.

Btw Grealish didn't do anything when he came on anyway, it feels like the Media's spreading this Myth that Grealish was gonna be our lord and saviour, but what did he honestly do this tournament?

Yep I really don’t get the whole Grealish can save this narrative...where was he for the pens :idc:

Cherie 11-07-2021 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071780)
How proud of Rice were you tonight? He was immense, ran himself into the ground.

The Irishman did us proud :love:

Alf 11-07-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11071782)
The Irishman did us proud :love:

We learnt all those tricks from you.

John Aldridge the most Scouse man ever.

MTVN 11-07-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071780)
How proud of Rice were you tonight? He was immense, ran himself into the ground.

He's put such a shift in all tournament! Rice is the first West Ham player I've seen play for England and for him to play every game and be so pivotal in a side that reached the final is massive

Alf 11-07-2021 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071785)
He's put such a shift in all tournament! Rice is the first West Ham player I've seen play for England and for him to play every game and be so pivotal in a side that reached the final is massive

You just know you're gonna lose him to a big club, don't ya?

MTVN 11-07-2021 11:17 PM

Actually I think Rob Green also played for England while he was West Ham but mainly remembered for his howler in the World Cup now sadly

Alf 11-07-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071788)
Actually I think Rob Green also played for England while he was West Ham but mainly remembered for his howler in the World Cup now sadly

We don't talk about those days around here.

MTVN 11-07-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11071787)
You just know you're gonna lose him to a big club, don't ya?

No chance, he's West Ham through and through

arista 11-07-2021 11:20 PM


Alf 11-07-2021 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11071790)
No chance, he's West Ham through and through

A few pieces of paper with the image of Her Majesty on it, always wins in the end.


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