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Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:01 PM

All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

Pete. 28-03-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pothuthic (Post 6773254)
Such a flawless bitch

sure

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Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773261)
All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

I felt I wrote a good pitch, I felt that I took on a bit of a leader role when I was present (other things stopped me from not being here at points) and I felt that I did well in the Q&A

Loukas 28-03-2014 08:07 PM

I suggested a large percentage of the locations before we all agreed on Gdańsk. I also spent a long time working on 2 sides of the brochure, sadly the file corrupted on one of them and i lost it. The other side included restaurants and bars that vary in prices to suit everyone, direction's to the local beach and a map pinpointing all places mentioned on the brochure. I think this is a strong point because i worked really, really hard.

Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:08 PM

And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773261)
All of you what do you feel your strengths were in this project?

I said at the beginning that we needed a certain target market, and I compiled the advertisement which I felt captured what point we were trying to get across.

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773275)
And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

Poth, only because of the level of effort loukas put into the task from a design point of view.. fair play to Poth for doing his best with the pitch though

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773275)
And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

Well I don't think I should be fired and I honestly see a fantastic candidate in Loukas which showed during this task

So due to process of elimination it'd have to be Jake.

But I feel we all have done a great job

Kate! 28-03-2014 08:11 PM

- goes for a wee -

Loukas 28-03-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773275)
And who do you feel deserves to be fired based on the merits of this task?

This is a hard one but sadly i would have to go for Poth only because i feel like his pitch was good but could have stronger, when you mentioned flights i thought his answer would have been stronger as he posted flight information earlier in the thread.

Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:13 PM

Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773284)
Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

I do agree, what with people being busy the results weren't produced to a high enough standard and the research suffered because of this

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773284)
Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece? Poth you yourself started market research, why did this not come through?

I did do a lot of research when I had time to do it which was rare during this task due to personal circumstances, but not much of it covered the grounds of what would have been appropriate for the presentation.

I did share the results saying people wanted a family holiday, but the team seemed very keen on an adventure holiday, so I had to go with my team.

Loukas 28-03-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773284)
Based on the fact the focus of this was not a design task, do you not feel your efforts could have been better spent focusing more on trying to gather as much information or research as you could to make a stronger case for your final piece?

Yes i do. But i was instructed to create the brochure so thats exactly what i did. I did send some information on various locations as i told the other candidates i could do more before i started designing.I mentioned this unique bar that wasn't mentioned that i saw as a selling point for both the young adults and and backpackers http://www.brovarnia.pl/en/.

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6773286)
I do agree, what with people being busy the results weren't produced to a high enough standard and the research suffered because of this

To an extent I agree with this, but I think I made up for this with personal research and on top of that the other things that I did, so personally I think the positives heavily outnumber the negatives.

Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:21 PM

The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pothuthic (Post 6773291)
To an extent I agree with this, but I think I made up for this with personal research and on top of that the other things that I did, so personally I think the positives heavily outnumber the negatives.

What personal research did you do?

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773294)
The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

Myself and Loukas were guilty of this, and Pothuthic made the point of the task clearer, I think I let go of the prospect a bit quicker than Loukas

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6773295)
What personal research did you do?

Yesterday I researched the history of Gdansk, I researched reviews on the hotel that I suggested and I looked at the 4 'adventurer' attractions

Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:23 PM

I'll ask the questions.

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773294)
The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

I did bring this up constantly if you remember, from the start I suggested 4 European countries that weren't as popular (Slovenia, Slovakia, Serbia and Malta)

I also made it clear that I did not agree with the brazil or Australia ideas and I felt the whole lodges and activity centre ideas werent what we were tasked with, so I do feel like the other two were the two wasting time.

I tried to curb this idea, but I kept being told that it was a good idea :/

Loukas 28-03-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773294)
The team also spent a lot of time at the start looking at places like Brazil, Australia and New Zealand. These are 3 massive tourist destinations and then you all wasted more time discussing building lodges and activities centers etc(which would have raised questions about taking jobs from the local community/businesses and planning permission etc) and was miles away from the objective of this project.

Who was responsible for most of this time wasting and why did nobody curb this idea sooner?

-puts hand up-
Me, i would say i wasted the most time. I mentioned New Zealand because New Zealand was the only country saw a drop in british tourists in the last year.

The top 6 countries for short term visits to New Zealand

Year ended Nov. 2012 || Year ended Nov. 2013
The amount of tourists in years 2012 & 2013

Australia
1,299,600 - 1,350,032

China, People's Republic of
194,752 231,120

United States
177,856 196,880

United Kingdom
191,360 190,816


Japan
69,968 75,052

Germany
62,656 68,384

i also mentioned Ouro Preto in Brazil cause it was a part of Brazil that not many people would know about. Looking back i could have focused more on the smaller countries of the world.

Benjamin 28-03-2014 08:28 PM

Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?

Mitchell 28-03-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Loukas (Post 6773304)
-puts hand up-
Me, i would say i wasted the most time. I mentioned New Zealand because New Zealand was the only country saw a drop in british tourists in the last year.

The top 6 countries for short term visits to New Zealand

Year ended Nov. 2012 || Year ended Nov. 2013
The amount of tourists in years 2012 & 2013

Australia
1,299,600 - 1,350,032

China, People's Republic of
194,752 231,120

United States
177,856 196,880

United Kingdom
191,360 190,816


Japan
69,968 75,052

Germany
62,656 68,384

i also mentioned Ouro Preto in Brazil cause it was a part of Brazil that not many people would know about. Looking back i could have focused more on the smaller countries of the world.

To be honest 500 people isn't a huge drop really? Especially for a country that is so highly visited.

With that point, the task did say to promote a lesser known country rather than a lesser known part of a very well known country.

Jake. 28-03-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6773305)
Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?

There wasn't a clear leader, nobody appointed themselves and it was all a bit of a mess


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