I do agree with you on this.

But the public only voted Israel at the top because of Political reasons, rather than thinking it was the best song.

I don't think that Graham Norton did anything wrong here.

He was being impartial.

I agree with you tbh.

Sh*t's still going down in Spain. It's only a little bit of a dumpster fire:

Sometimes you find little gems like this on X:

Govt hard at work avoiding investigating its own performance to investigate votes for a music competition :laugh: Can't make this up...

It’d likely be hosted elsewhere, like when Ukraine won.

there is literally no reason to rig the competition. It's not like the winner gets a significant career bump. There is no money these days even in a hit single. Those days have long gone

But can you imagine the hoo-ha had Israel won?

This left-wing pos tried to storm the stage and pour red paint signifying blood on a young girl singing at a music festival who herself on Oct 7th 2023 had to hide under dead bodies for hours to survive death at a music festival

what is wrong with these deranged marxists?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrL-E-eX...jpg&name=small

Sickening little runt.

I am still following post-Eurovision Spain drama. They are super melty over there and the fallout itself has led to uproar against their own establishment. Apparently, it seems?, the govt has been digging in its heels over Israel because they are distracting from the rotting garbage on their own lawn. So it's been said it's funny they want to investigate the vote because so many there voted Israel, meanwhile the govt is pro-Palestine and state media.

There is still fallout obviously their act placing so badly with so many people saying they don't want to participate again because either it's become too political or just Europe not really feeling Spanish music in general.. so why bother, etc? Also, not fair that the channel involved didn't seem to care how it would negatively impact the artist's work... supposedly they tried to pressure the Israel singer privately and the broadcaster has had journalists banned in the past for politically charged behavior. But those were translated commentary bits I was reading so massive grain of salt...

I think not surprising that politics yet again ruins a good thing for some people, but, it is comical the level at which this seems to have gone locally. Some conspiracies but hard to follow with Google translate. I knew I should've learned Spanish...

Spanish PM claims Israel's Eurovision participation shows EBU's double standard
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/culture/article-854587

Was Eurovision FIXED? Major TV networks demand probe after Israel came second
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...me-second.html

Eurovision 2025: Spanish broadcaster to request audit after surge in Israel votes
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/spa...srael-seig8dbq

Virtually everything I have seen per online recorded video commentary was either panning politicization of their entry or pro-Israel. Opposition yes, but limited to a few replies (comments) here and there. So at least appears to match up with televote...

and let the head of the EBU reference group be the one from Spain

we want Israel dq'd and then everyone else moving up one place who were below them in the results


Estonia with Tommy Cash is the actual runner up

Weren't you supporting Israel last week? Now you want them disqualified?

I voted for Israel over Spain. I just preferred their song.

I voted neither but Israel’s was by far better than Spain’s.

it is not about the Spain entry? the spanish PM Sanchez questions if really that many spanish people did vote for Israel


and i said this is going to be interesting considering Spain is leading the reference group as of this year with upcoming talks about israel's future participation in the contest



but yeah if Israel leave, and we get countries like Romania, Moldova, Andorra, Monaco back, we gain more countries than who are leaving, and there is always North Macedonia whom might return some day whenever they want to, since they still broadcast it anyway, more like whenever an artist has a good song on stand by, and if an artist can fund the whole participation

because i got backed into a corner, scared into thinking i could come across as antisemitic


but thankfully on the night of the final, i had enough balls not to vote for Israel, but i voted for Latvia, those impressive fairies, beautiful harmonies unlike the UK

No body would think you were anti-Semitic for not liking a song.

Yeah Israel’s song was amazing. She was just amazing, great voice, everything. Deserved second place.. Spain did deserve better too though

See I found Spain’s really forgettable. It’s one of the few songs I can’t even really remember as it left that little impression on me.

I'd never support Israel being disqualified or to be blocked from being in the Contest.
My only thoughts is, bless them, why they'd want to be in it with all the unnecessary and grossly unfair negativity they get thrown at them.

It's not now really, in MY view, a serious song contest, it's a more fun evening with good, fair or even some bad entertainment.
However still one of the better nights on TV, it was a great night here on TIBB too.
Anything that has loads of different Countries performing together is welcomed by me.

The Israeli entry however was a beautiful song, performed extremely good by a very strong singer too and it warranted the success it achieved.
Yes I preferred Austria and Lithuania as winners myself, however as is the case most years, Israel was right up there with being a possible winner too.
Well done to them.

because they know they can milk the victim card until the last drop


Yuval a strong singer :laugh3: lmao not at all, more like this having been cheap for the broadcaster KAN with Yuval and her family paying for the participation, staging, promo work

Spain was not bad, but not great, wasn't among my faves, but it was better than some of their recent entries i thought



i preferred Latvia or Luxembourg as possible winners from that grand final, and wouldn't have minded a back to back swiss win, as Zoe performed it excellently well

am i against Israel competing at eurovision?

No


i am just against the bigots at the broadcaster KAN and their government, who more want clichéd, washed up sob story ballads as their entries


i myself would love a fun act like Balkan Beat Box next year from them, but i doubt it, since those guys never go releasing ''political propaganda'' songs

They're leaking Melody's contracts now and trying to determine whether the TV station will sanction the singer in Spain for a breach. It's seeming to be because she refusing to be politicized and has retreated from public view for the time being (but promises a press conference at some point...). And this has made the networks/shows she was supposed to be on "first" post-competition very melty and unhappy. She is technically someone's product though and that's another discussion also.

That's about the same energy as I watch Big Brother. Modern politics is cancerous and shows no discrimination in terms of where it intrude, infect and infest. This is the aim :shrug: So I'll enjoy what we have while we have it. The alternative is we all stand within the same room but can't look actually look at each other as human beings who generally should enjoy similar things and I'd prefer that not be the case for my children...