What about the ethic cleansing desires of Hamas?

Exactly! Liberal leftys still desires this. They are calling Jews as a nazis, yet they wanna wipe em off the earth. Muslims (Iran, Syria and Palestine are good examples). Peace and love, peace and love....

Extremely well said. sorry about double posting, but this is a important point of view. Sad thing is that "liberals" from US and EU are forgetting that religions is behind all of this (especially muslims).

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Of course it is an Islam thing. A Koran thing. It is a lot of people who believe what the Koran is telling them and therefore need to get Jews off the land they understand ought to be 'under the house of Islam'.

In a sense (if not successfully so far) Bush and Blair had a kind of Christian religious agenda [read explanation] and it goes something like this:
- IF you could see Iraq and Afghanistan burst into truly democratic type of societies with 'freedom of speech' and concepts allowing Christian missionaries, Christian conversions,
and,
IF this were to sort of 'snowball' across and through Arab Muslim nations,
then,
You 'could' see situations where the Arab world is no longer voting in or tolerating Islamic governments but 'secular' governments who do not feel obligated to carry out Mohammads orders on Jews.

I don't know.
The prediction I fear comes true is something like this:

The Arab Muslim world will see so many Muslims converting or abandoning Islam and see the coming 'secular revolutions' and there will be one helluva 'animal in a corner' reaction from the hardcore Jihadi types.
They will go too far.
With Russia, with China and with Israel and for that matter even Europe and the USA.
Russia will move down absolutely annihilating them right out of Chechnya and beyond. I mean the actual people will be forced out.
Then China will just stomp every Muslim straight out in the same old-school expulsion or die way.
Then Israel will do it.
Retreating Muslims exploding themselves and carrying out the most horrific ghoulish sickening murders, suicide bombings, child killings etc will all but force the hand of Russia, China, Israel,
and,
that is when it will get REALLY nasty because its something like the Russians and Americans 'racing to take their share of Germany'.
Russian an China will 'race for the stans' and Israel is going to realize they are damn well getting as much as they can too and start taking out parts of Egypt and Jordan etc.

This is bad news for Muslims because it will end up just annihilating the Arab Muslim world back to the stone age (as they say) and there will be no more need to keep them happy or play along like we do now.

Well lets hope that doesn't happen.

Russians don't like jews, and China dislike em too (old commie thing). Only thing that they hate em is that US supports em. ****ed up world.

Oh I agree. It won't be because they are supporting Israel and in my 'apocalypse scenario' I actually figure it would inevitably be (more) bad news for Israel.

Russia is interesting because their original Communist Revolution certainly was top-heavy with Jews. Not everyone but to a point where you can nearly call it a 'Jewish movement' and I'm not just talking Lenin, Trotsky and good old Marx but a long list of the most influential and powerful.
People forget that the 'Purges' did not just come out of nowhere for no reason - it was definitely because Jews were highly disproportional in the top of the system.
(not saying purges were a good idea either.. but just points it out).

China really is fascinating in all this. If you are watching television in Communist China you may catch a Mao 'propaganda' series. Mao is portrayed as this great heroic man and usually saving a baby and all that,
but,
how creepy (if you ask me) is scenes where they will have Mao teaching and preaching and behind him on a wall are portraits of Jews.
(Marx, Lenin, Trotsky as we mentioned before),
and,
Let me tell you something else - not long ago most Chinese wouldn't know who or what a Jew is to do with anything.
Not now.
They absolutely DO know there is a kind of white people called 'Jews' and let me tell you something else:
- Chinese are STILL resentful about the Opium wars. The problem is they used to think that was what the English did to them,
but,
they are now figuring out the 'dealers' in all this were wealthy Jewish families.

Now I'm not trying to tell anyone this is all perfectly accurate and/or should be how people think about things,
but,
I am agreeing with you that this IS what plenty of Russians and Chinese will see and think about when considering whether they want to trust Israel.

On the other hand Russian and Israel will tolerate each other if it means annihilating Muslim Chechnya,
and,
China and Israel will tolerate each other if it means permanently 'solving' the Uyghur 'east turkestan' problem.


What always amazed me is that the Arab Muslims (and i mean the hardcore practicing Muslim ones) do not understand that they can be stomped back to the stone age.
Even after they continually get stomped in small bites and are just losing and getting defeated today,
yet,
they are working overtime to 'ask for it'?

Now I did get an answer to that - its because they do believe Islam will conquer the whole world and in fact sparking a massive and final 'battle of Civilization' will only speed up that promise.

Now 'Christian Zionism' could be a whole another topic unto itself. I'm working on it.

What "liberal" Europeans don't understand is that Muslims are trying to hide their "muslim inquisition" agenda behind the "freedom of speech" (that is not allowed in muslim world).

That is not possible.
You can not Destroy a nation with Nukes.


Hamas are in Power.

It really is one of the ultimate cruel twist ironies and its like the whole thing has 'backfired' on the liberal leftist agenda people.
It would almost become hilarious if it wasn't so genuinely dangerous.

The thing is - the Muslim absolutely KNOW what they have here and I well imagine they must just laugh amongst themselves how easily they have this sowed up.
One told me its even more than that - he sees its a sure sign that Allah is with them.
What else can explain the ease and how it is working for them? Obviously the Euros deserve it.
He actually believes its because Allah has confused their minds and given Muslims special ability.

Yeah, I have no idea when that sort of 'progressive liberal' type of European (or Brits or Canucks or Yanks etc) will ever wake up and get smart. It seems 'until its too late' is becoming the answer.

arista, you clearly not know what you are talking about. why don't you go out and hunt taxi drivers instead.

Nah am sure we can all sleep safe in our beds knowing you and Mojo are keeping an ever watchful eye on our enemies and their conspiracies to take over the world.

Have you and Mojo got the survival bunker sorted for yourselves in the woods?

Finally, someone with a brain!

The pro-Israel people on this web site are so far out of their league, it's laughable. No wonder Britain is full of uneducated chav trash.

Shas is hilarious - instead of allowing himself to get wound-up he just points out the deficiencies in their arguments. I've tried winding Tel in the past with daft comments and he just does it to me too :hugesmile:

Who knows maybe this time it just wont be glossed over.

Have a fun with your Islamised Europe:xyxwave:

The people's republic of Scotland, "Islamised" from this new word you've just invented

The funny thing is that you mean that to be sarcastic yet its more true than you know.

Nothing conspiracy about this either - I can show you famous English neighbourhood that now belongs to Islam. They just love useful idiots like you. not that you are welcome there.
Unless you submit to Islam?

So do you do the day shift and mojo the night or vice versa? Must be awfully hard doing a straight 12 hour shift or do you split it down to 3-4 hour stags?


How stands England this eve, watchman?

Thats two, by the way.

I can tell you this much. Visited a once famous English neighbourhood to see this centuries good old 'heart of england' sort of district that is even famous around the world.
Its what many think about when they think of England and English people.
Its gone.
What Hitler could not do (and damn well tried) was easily carried out by a large group of Arab Muslims.
I wasn't actually welcomed there and was a little nervous as a crowd of tough looking Arabs 'scowled me' as I walked by in a way saying 'keep moving little infidel'.
I was sure I saw where address plates had been chipped off. Another house had replaced theirs with an Arabic sign.
Women wearing Hijabs to cover their faces in the neighbourhood. That is Englands neighbourhoods - where women must cover their face.

This already happened.
Don't bother looking stupid and guffawing about this 'fantasy' because it is that way now.
I dare you to go draw a picture of Mohammad in that neighbourhood tomorrow.

Like this?


http://www.seraphicpress.com/images/...ideBombing.jpg

Atrocities are committed by BOTH sides.

The slide show mentioned in the above quote is at: http://www.aztlan.net/gaza/gaza_mass...f_children.php

Interesting little point there about the autopsy results.

I don't believe that turkish propaganda at all.

Yeah lets just ignore that little inconvenience, counterproductive as it is to your arguments.