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Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590437)
When exactly did I say that you said his comment was right? I'm well aware you don't agree with his comment. But I believe that it's wrong that you think there's nothing wrong with him expressing his homophobic views. Maybe you should learn to read what I wrote.

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I just know the difference between right and wrong and I find it funny when I'm educating you on this matter.
Maybe you should word your sentences better then because that clearly implies that you are teaching me the difference between right and wrong on his comment.

Now if you have finished clutching at straws we are done here,

M X 05-01-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590433)
I would hardly think saying other people are entitled to their opinions (whilst not agreeing with said opinions) is supporting homophobia

Each to their own though I guess :shrug:

well, supporting peoples right to spread homophobia is supporting homophobia.

Kazanne 05-01-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590424)
Educating me. :laugh3:


I never said his comment was right. I suggest you educate yourself and learn to read.

Ben, some people just really are not worth trying to explain to, no where have you said Evander was right in what he said.

Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590439)
where does people are entitled to their opinion stop though?

That is actually a good topic for Serious Debates, Jordan.

M X 05-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590451)
Maybe you should word your sentences better then because that clearly implies that you are teaching me the difference between right and wrong on his comment.

Now if you have finished clutching at straws we are done here,

Um, no it doesn't? You are reaching so far right now. It's hilarious. :joker: Now go and read through all the other posts in this thread and see what you can find to twist! It'll be fun for you :) Report back your findings!

the truth 05-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590448)
Tricky one :laugh:

No idea really. I would say if he randomly gave his (bigotted) views in a public rant or something then it would be wrong. But answering a question that he was asked, and in private, is different.

Unfortunately you cant change the way some people think. And from my experience, the older generation seem to be the most intolerant...they have been able o be that for years and years unchallenged, its not going to change now sadly.

how can it be challenged if conversation and discussion is banned ?

Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590457)
Um, no it doesn't? You are reaching so far right now. It's hilarious. :joker: Now go and read through all the other posts in this thread and see what you can find to twist! It'll be fun for you :) Report back your findings!

Wow, it really is like dealing with a child. At least the others said their piece and left it at that, you are just embarrassing yourself now.

Seanbon 05-01-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590413)
Or possibly not all gay people think the same. I wasnt aware everyone of a certain sexuality must agree on everything.

Edit. This actually reminds me of an argument on gay marriage a while ago. One of my mates was accused of allowing homophobia and being against his 'own kind' or something along those lines simply because he said he couldnt care less about getting married an was quite happy with his civil parntership

:thumbs::thumbs:100% Not every homosexual has the same opinion on every subject,just like every heterosexual!?! Equal rights,and all that!!:thumbs::thumbs:

Jordan. 05-01-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590450)
With whoevers opinion it is ,its blatant arrogance to claim YOUR opinion is more valid than the next persons

okay so I suppose we all should support terrorist attacks since it's just the terrorist carrying out his opinion.

M X 05-01-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590447)
Im funny in the right way, youd need a sense of humour to appreciate that
now shut your pie hole:xyxwave:

noo stop lying!!
you are so anti-opinion!!1:dance:

M X 05-01-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590463)
okay so I suppose we all should support terrorist attacks since it's just the terrorist carrying out his opinion.

EXACTLY.

thesheriff443 05-01-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590461)
Wow, itreally is like dealing with a child.

ben you were doing so well!
maybe he should grow up:joker:

the truth 05-01-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590452)
well, supporting peoples right to spread homophobia is supporting homophobia.

100% wrong. supporting peoples right to discuss subjects helps tackle misunderstandings and fights perceived bigotry. such as this thread, youre being schooled and one day you may learn something, by about 2027

now shut your pie hole

Vicky. 05-01-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590458)
how can it be challenged if conversation and discussion is banned ?

Yeah another good question tbh

Jack_ 05-01-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6590405)
Oh ffs sake can you not keep on about this everytime Chuff posts,its like you are just waiting for her to post,its the same old same old from you all the time,Chuff is entitalled her opinions as you are.Now you can report back to your leader:hugesmile: Why don't you just ignore her if she offends you so much,or do you love it Jack?

Yes it is indeed the same old stuff all the time, every series it's comments about American housemates or black ones etc etc, I'm not the only one that thinks like this either and in fact there's been a few in this thread that pointed this out before I did but single me out why don't you? Kinda sweet I guess.

Leader? That actually doesn't make any sense to me so I'd love you to elaborate there.

Maybe I don't ignore her cause I think racism and xenophobia is something that should be publicly condemned in order to draw attention to it and try to cut it back in the future? Just a thought. Maybe people should just turn a blind eye to discriminatory comments in future :shrug:

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6590412)
Maybe grow up when its balls have dropped

Oh my balls have certainly dropped, I'll PM you a pic if you like love xx

Stick to criticising housemates for being American or stereotyping them for being black or reminiscing about the days when you could call them 'coloured people' or throwing around insults like 'slut' and '*****' to women you've never even met or making comments about housemates ethnicities? Need I go on? Leave my balls out of it, thanks :kiss:

the truth 05-01-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590465)
EXACTLY.

no shouting

the truth 05-01-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6590470)
Yes it is indeed the same old stuff all the time, every series it's comments about American housemates or black ones etc etc, I'm not the only one that thinks like this either and in fact there's been a few in this thread that pointed this out before I did but single me out why don't you? Kinda sweet I guess.

Leader? That actually doesn't make any sense to me so I'd love you to elaborate there.

Maybe I don't ignore her cause I think racism and xenophobia is something that should be publicly condemned in order to draw attention to it and try to cut it back in the future? Just a thought. Maybe people should just turn a blind eye to discriminatory comments in future :shrug:



Oh my balls have certainly dropped, I'll PM you a pic if you like love xx

Stick to criticising housemates for being American or stereotyping them for being black or reminiscing about the days when you could call them 'coloured people' or throwing around insults like 'slut' and '*****' to women you've never even met or making comments about housemates ethnicities? Need I go on? Leave my balls out of it, thanks :kiss:

your post is a disgrace, shame on you

M X 05-01-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590461)
Wow, it really is like dealing with a child. At least the others said their piece and left it at that, you are just embarrassing yourself now.

But you are still here? How am I acting like a child still being here and you aren't? Literally you haven't raised one valid point. And yeah, all the other bandwagoners will tell me to 'grow up' but nobody has raised any valid points so it's pointless really.

If you are so done with this discussion, then you may leave. If you are so done with it, why are you still replying to me?

chuff me dizzy 05-01-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590463)
okay so I suppose we all should support terrorist attacks since it's just the terrorist carrying out his opinion.

Different thing altogether :rolleyes:

M X 05-01-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590468)
100% wrong. supporting peoples right to discuss subjects helps tackle misunderstandings and fights perceived bigotry. such as this thread, youre being schooled and one day you may learn something, by about 2027

now shut your pie hole

oh yes, supporting peoples right to express homophobia does wonders to find bigotry :joker::joker::joker:

stop embarrassing yourself

the truth 05-01-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6590463)
okay so I suppose we all should support terrorist attacks since it's just the terrorist carrying out his opinion.

possibly the stupidest thing every written by an alleged human being

Jordan. 05-01-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590480)
possibly the stupidest thing every written by an alleged human being

coming from a person who calls themselves the truth I really don't care

http://24.media.tumblr.com/81faf9d2d...h84mo1_500.gif

chuff me dizzy 05-01-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6590454)
Ben, some people just really are not worth trying to explain to, no where have you said Evander was right in what he said.

This is what happens when you read something wearing blinkers

M X 05-01-2014 10:24 PM

People pick and chose which 'personal views' are okay to express.

It's not okay to discriminate against black people based on your personal views, but it is okay to discriminate against gay people based on your personal views.

People just use the 'personal view' argument to cover up their own bigotry and ignorance.

Macie Lightfoot 05-01-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6590470)
I'm not the only one that thinks like this either and in fact there's been a few in this thread that pointed this out before I did

This is true, I too have called chuff out on her xenophobia in the past.


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