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I know she has a load of faults and things that need correcting, however for me being 2 faced is not one of those things. I have come across the massive and distressing problems when I was at Uni that 2 faced people can cause for others,that is why I dislike intensely 2 faced people and always will. For me that is why I parted company as to Ashleigh,once I saw her do that repeatedly in the house. |
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"Two faced" is such a vacuous complaint anyway. We all wear different faces in different situations when we're with different people. We all try to get along with those we don't like to make things easier for ourselves and others, and we all say "Fine thanks" when asked if we're okay even when we want to tell the person asking to "piss off"
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Don't even bother the proof will never come. I cant understand why someone simply wont post a link to her mothers Twitter account especially if it backs up their argument. |
I do get annoyed when called a hypocrite.
In the first weeks of this series Ashleigh was my 3rd placed housemate and Helen was my 15th out of 16. Over the weeks watching them both, while not that impressed with eithers behaviour overall,I have warmed to Helen and cooled to Ashleigh. Helen is now my 5th out of the 8 left and Ashleigh is my 7th. Ashleigh is down there now with me for being 2 faced, because she has interracted with Helen as a housemate from the early days but only said really nasty and unpleasant things as to her, to others, 'behind her back'. Until she says to Helen's face,(as Helen has mostly done with her), all the things she has said to others about her behind her back then she is 2 faced,very much so and a coward to boot too from where I am standing. |
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Danielle is an example of a 2 faced housemate, she would act nice to people she had just been bitching about. |
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When you don't tell them to their faces what you are willing to say about them behind their back. It is a cop out to say I never liked someone while never telling them so. Helen first learned what Ashleigh was saying about her in the vt playbacks,sorry, dress it up all you like but she was being 2 faced because she was overall indifferent to Helen on the surface but bringing her down behind her back. People like that who spout out lies and nastiness to others about someone behind their back, can often cause loads of problems for others. That is 2 faced,one face to the person in person and a totally different take when talking to that other person to others behind their back. Ashleighs 2 faces were,miss sweetness and light,wouldn't say boo to a goose,then to certain others spouting out really nasty and often uncalled for comments when they couldn't hear them Some of it can be harmless,I agree but I prefer people who tell others to their face what they think of them and not go to others behind their backs. |
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It still doesn't excuse the things she has said to others as to Helen behind her back, rather than to her face. As for Ash, I agree he was unpleasnt as to Ashleigh at the start,something she has clearly held against him until all her so called friends have gone. With him not doing or saying anything unpleasant for ages now as to her. The point is Helen only learned the real nastiness of what Ashleigh thought as to her from the vt playbacks. Ashleigh never said a thing to Helen's face whatsoever, now she is all over Helen. What does that say about her,I am just disappointed Helen has not seen through that too. |
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No!...She's a very naughty girl! :smug: |
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:blush2: Not exactly what I had in mind old bean!....I was hamfistedly trying to invoke the spirit of Monty Python into your "She's not an angel" quip....you know..."he's not the messiah,...he's a very naughty boy"!....So kindly drop the smut! :smug: |
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Again, this Essex gangster morality of "If you've got something to say, say to it my face" is impossible to live up to in the real world, let alone a house where you're being judged for your every action, liable to be nominated (which Helen is not) and evicted, and attacked for being aggressive for doing so. It's a phoney argument to use. And if most people did try to live up to it in the real world civilization would soon collapse. People have to make the best of s situation. That will involve going off with people sometimes and having a moan and a bitch. Quote:
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