no it shouldn't have been Lisa

I don't think they attempted to be more upmarket in the slightest. It's still trashy.

They just tried to focus more on actual Big Brother focussed discussion rather than on irrelevant sketches and stuff. Which they still do but have cut down on. I'm all for that.

I suppose. I agree Danielle was the worst and most racist of the lot but Jade had the most to lose and was crucified as a consequence

who should it have been then?

I actually agree with this.
He's not that bad.

I just don't watch it because the show has changed, and I find it cheap, tacky, and boring.

They need to shake it up.


BOTS was great during BB14, CBB13, BB15, and CBB14. But ever since CBB15, it's been crap.

On the Toya stuff though, I remember being completely confused by her in week 1.

She was like quiet for 3 days, sat in the background in her nightgown picking her spots and then suddenly she came out mouthing off with "You're not listening to me! You're actually not listening to me!!!" and I was like :umm2:

Freddie, Marcus, or Siavash

Kris was an awful bully and was only let off because he was a pretty boy

No they did not :nono: everyone was mocking each other's voices that year, especially during the bullying of Freddie. I didn't see anyone claiming that had racist, xenophobic or classist undertones because it didn't, it was nasty but it was just something they were doing to belittle him, same with Marcus and Sree

Calling him into the Diary Room and telling him that it could be construed as racist and not doing the same for those mocking Freddie is what was racist in itself and he was right to hilariously call them out for it and they didn't know what to say. It's exactly the same as when people make out women need extra special protection, it's actually anti-women and the furthest thing away from being a feminist you can get

Thankfully I have no memory of such an irrelevant blip in BB history.

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How did Siavash come 2nd he was such a lame housemate

Orlaith should never have gone in. She added NOTHING.

Deserving out of the finalists - yes. Deserving out of the cast - hell no.

Jade got a much harsh time, as she was the head bitch in charge, and was the most vocal about it. Whereas the other two were bitchy.

But, Danielle was a cunt, who deserved to be teared apart by the public, but instead Jo got the abuse.

I was being realistic on a vote to save tbh:laugh:

tbh that eviction should have been vote to evict Hira had a lot more to give

She screaming at Science and snogging Craig in the pool (:omgno:) disagrees

I don't remember ha [2]

She had an iconic rivalry with Derek and Kemal

Kinga was robbed

I agree with whoever said Sophie Reade is the best female winner. Helen and Kate were both amazing also.

Another one people seem to disagree with, Charlotte Crosby was amazing. I see a lot of people calling her vile but I think she is easily the best CBB winner ever.

Nikki should have won UBB too. Brian is criminally overrated

I agree with this. That accent stuff was ridiculous.

BB never steps in when housemates mimic posh voices, regional accents so why should it be any different for international accents?

Sophie is my all time favourite winner :love:

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-Kate Lawler is BORING BORING BORING
-Brian Dowling wasn't all that in BB2