no, Sadam was pretending to have WMDs , bush and blair called his bluff.

alex trolling again so tedious

Oh jesus.. Harriet Harman has apparently been expelling huge amounts of labour voters that have voted Corbyn, excusing it as "members who do not support party values" or something. What kind of democracy is this?

oo eck.. do you have a link to that Josh?

Yes but she has also stopped
Left wingers from the Guardian
Big Errors

Hmm,if this is so, she will need to be able to legitimise the party doing so by being able to prove there is something dubious as to the votes.
I mean there have been a Conservative peer and even a Conservative MP paying the £3 to be able to vote in the leadership election, purposely to vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

I am astonished anyone connected to the Conservative party would be so childish and pathetic to get involved in this at all anyway.
I am a Labour member and would never want to be associated with any function as to the Conservative party,leadership election or otherwise.

The payment of just £3 was a bad idea of Ed Milibands,I would have limited voting to those paying the full years fee to be a member and not entertain these daft game playing idiots who only want to scupper the process or ruin the Labour party.

If those are the votes the party have been looking at and discounting, then I am all for that.

[the Conservative party would be so childish and pathetic to get involved in this at all anyway.]


No Joey it the open market thinking
Pay just £3 and vote in JC
I fully understand any Conservatives voting

Its Labours System

I can understand expelling conservatives that are only joining to mess around, I mean that's their biggest rival.. but people who have supported other parties in the past but now see something exciting about Labour (a lot of greens, UKIPs, some libdems, and even some tories fit that definition) really shouldn't be removed. It's not fair and I view it as corrupt to discount their votes.

They did it to attempt to scupper the democratic process, it's seen as a jolly jape as it's the tories but in essence it's dirty tricks and bad politics.
I hope he wins and I hope he goes on to win in 2020 that'll wipe the smiles off the smug twonks.

I also wonder how they will discount votes after they have been cast since people already have ballots, since they are meant to be secretive how will they know? That seems like a lot of room for corruption and it worries me.

JC deserves to win because he's the only candidate offering something new, progressive, and exciting. He's got his speech venues packed and overfilled wherever he goes. I really think he could have the tony blair effect.

:wavey:You are spot on, if this was Labour MPs,or even just Labour activists, paying to vote for a Conservative leader, the media and the Conservatives would be likely demanding a public enquiry as to why.

However,some of the best laid plans often bring about the result you appear to want at the time but then more time and fate bring it back to really bite those behind it on the backside.

If Jeremy Corbyn does win the leadership,then I am, as I have said, of the growing view that he may not turn out to be the easy defeat hoped for in an election.
He could easily carry the day so your hopes may well come to fruition.

Is he your choice as to who you want as leader Kizzy?

I want JC as the Labour Leader

No one is breaking any rules if its open to anyone paying 3 quid. How can they possibly vet each and every voter for subscribing to labour party values, that's a joke. The only thing they can check is that votes are only counted from those who have paid the dosh.

As to conservatives voting for a labour candidate ... on their heads be it.

He is at the moment, but as you are our 'man on the inside' is there any truth in the allegations that he has skeletons in his closet? or anything that you feel the electorate are unaware of regarding this dark horse... since the last election he seems to have appeared from nowhere :/

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-442x589.jpg
todays paper

some women voters are finding him sexy? laydees? your thoughts?

I always find sexiness a particularly peculiar thing...never looks based for me, always intellect plus rawness. I love his intellect, but he's on a dad level for sexiness :P

The Tories will be rubbing their grubby mitts together if Corbyn wins.

lizz kendall is the female version of tony blair, and she smiles like him too, a bit like a cheshire cat,

Lol! You are so right, I always wondered why I had an underlying hatred for her beyond her general twattishness!!

He has served his constituents really well for over 30 years,he has strong opinions and yes, older ideas as to what Labour should stand for and more to the point as to what policies they should be implementing.

I have met him, he is a really decent man who respects your opinion and listens.
I know of no skeletons that would be damaging,that is not to say the media will not go crazy digging any tiny thing up as to his actions 40 or even 50 years ago,if there was anything at all that could be even slightly negative.
Failing that,they will likely even invent some nonsense, the thing is for me, I think he could ride above all the negativity he will get from the media.

He has conducted himself perfectly all through this leadership campaign,I really think his honesty and principled stance as to policy is gaining him admiration from voters.
My worry is, where labour needs the Conservative vote to drop and for them to pick up at least some seats, that is where his appeal will be at its weakest.
That is the far South, there is now, with the demise of the Lib Dems,no party that can damage the Conservatives there in what is fast becoming a one party state area of England.

I am fed up of hearing from Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall as to the dangers for Labour if he won.
Labour walked into danger when it elected Gordon brown as leader with no contest at all in 2007.
Then as much as I liked him,chose Ed Miliband over his Brother but failed to replace him a year or so before the 2015 election.
With hindsight,they should have done so.

We don't hear Jeremy Corbyn saying if Yvette wins or Liz wins, that he and people who think like him in the party, will split and it will be a catastrophe for labour.
Many have said on here even,Labour turned its back on those it once near fully represented and came into being to represent too,Jeremy Corbyn could address that and I think win many voters back too probably.
Will it be enough and whose votes he could lose,is another matter.

Hey, having said all that, he deserves a chance and if he is chosen as leader, I will support him 100%, after what Labour has had the last 5 elections, at least in Jeremy Corbyn there will be a credible Labour leader.
He will get hammered in the media as MTVN says,the Mail and vile Sun are dying to get started on him.
I think he could well turn that around as to a positive for himself,as to what voters think of that criticism of him however by the media.

Thanks for that Joey, that's very heartening to know :) I love his attitude towards the name calling and the grandstanding I just hope though that when the mudslinging does start he at least counters with something though...
Ed was as steadfast in that regard but it did him no favours in the end as nobody noticed that quality which is surprising as you would think that's what most would want in a statesman :/
But no! we got the boorish, backbiting, catty, sneering, jeering lying tories...again!!

( sorry lost it for a mo there ;)

:clap1: joey, you are both intelligent and eloquent.

Funnily enough, I believe Murdoch said somewhere that he liked Corbyn and wanted him to win because he is principled and the nature of how he expresses himself or something like that.

:joker:This govt would make most lose it for a mo or even much longer Kizzy.

I think Ed,although he dealt with the criticisms well, he made more of it than was needed at times.
Whereas Jeremy Corbyn I feel, would really just let it all brush over him in a much more relaxed way.

By the way to Anaesthesia,thank you very much for your kind words.