You mean, when you're ridiculing people who have a different opinion from you.

And you are already a TS.

Yes but that's the point; the native population are highly secular and intolerant of religious cultures and so reject integration strongly, leading to ghettoisation and isolation, which is what provides plenty of disenfranchised (usually) young and easily influenced individuals to radicalise. You're totally right that the problem lies in the insular communities and ghettos. These are not caused by multiculturalism, or "failing" multiculturalism, but a REJECTION of multiculturalism... And yet, your solution is to reject it even more strongly?

TS you are beginning to catch Jackitis

Its a condition where you seem to think you know exactly a posters mind and motive in order to make your own argument sound credible. :worry:


LT: I am so hungry I have not eaten all day

Jack: Lol, LT you are full up and are not hungry, stop saying you are hungry you lying charlatan

:shocked:

Are you saying that the French should welcome this backward unreformed ridiculous religion with open arms?


I dont think that the ghettisation is solely based on the secular nature of the French but more to do with money?

You should be flattered LT, the only reason I think you're being disingenuous is that I'm convinced you aren't stupid.

Rude :hmph:

you are doing it again as you imply that I must be stupid to disagree with you

It looks like you have it bad

:worry:

I think they should be tolerant of the differences in newcomers, integrate them properly into society, and then see the benefits that follow. If you look at the heavily religious immigrant families in Britain and America who ARE well integrated (and they do exist) you can see the effect... First generation holds onto it, second generation keeps a lot of the tradition but are more accepting of their children's freedom to choose, third generation starts to become as indifferent to religion as our own teens. They take more societal influence from their friends and those around them than from family. The problem with ghettos of course being that this is lost.

Multiculturalism only works with integration and willingness to integrate has to come from BOTH sides.

No no no, not to disagree with me, but to pretend to be ignorant of some fairly objective concepts. If you interpret things differently, that's fine.

Have you caught an itus off the forum oracle?... you seem to be mocking the comments of others in an attempt to make your paper thin argument appear credible in this thread.

PS I am not the forum oracle ;)

We finally agree on something.

dont drag me into your fight:nono:

TS, Jack and I are best pals really


:hmph:

I wonder who is? ..... :smug:

I'm sorry Kizzy, I left school a long time ago, I'm past this childishness so maybe try it with someone on your own level. And as you seem to thrive on this negative attention, I'm putting you back on ignore.

So are Livia and Kizzy.


... :umm2:...

If that makes you happy, do what you have to do liv.

:joker: Come on Livia, NO ONE on the last few pages can be getting on a maturity high horse...