I know what you mean. Those are the arguments I'm commenting on. They're normally tediously dull (i.e. Stephen Bear last summer). Kim is an anomaly in making those entertaining.

Yeah, I just commented on Austin taking the bait. But Austin and his reaction is not a reason to love Speidi as they weren't anticipating that reaction.

Well I can't really comment on Bear obviously but the rest is all subjective, if we're taking it back to the original debate though which is quantifying Speidi and James as having 'done something', they've done more than he has, even if it is by virtue of having an argument

I don't follow that, Speidi deliberately stole the water hoping for a reaction and they got it from Austin :laugh:

I don't think you are making up lies about James C - you have convinced me that you really believe he is entertaining. I'm frankly at a loss why this should be but whatever....and yes, I find Spencer to be the type of HM I enjoy...and he actually says stuff and moves about, which I find essential in a HM. :joker:

Yes, I've done nothing but try to convince everyone of my undying love for James C in this thread haven't I? :umm2:

Oh wait.

I didn't mention love! Steady on...:laugh: just his entertainment value...to you.

Except I haven't. :umm2:

I know it's difficult keeping up with a thread with so many pages though luvvie.

You said:

If you can make a statement as unaware as this, then expect a wind up. :joker:
Night night :wavey:

That statement is making claims on how much I find James C entertaining?

Or how unentertaining I find Speidi?

Your reasoning is quite bizarre. That statement is on how unentertaining Speidi are. Nowhere do I claim or explain how entertaining I'm finding James C and want others to feel that way.

As I find Speidi (or rather Spencer) entertaining, I was winding you up that you found James equally so, as you said they were 'on a par'.

Just as you were surely winding Speidi supporters up by even saying that as Speidi's airtime and contribution have been far more than James, and you must know that.
Get it? :laugh:

No, as unlike you it seems, I say what I mean.

Speidi have been incredibly dull and contributed nothing, particularly Heidi.

As much as I like James, I do find him to be rather two faced. TBH.
He is nice to people but then comments that he finds them annoying.
I'd say that he is holding in a lot of what he really thinks and hoping to sail through to the final. IMO.

He went right down my estimations when he said sleazebag Jamie is a great kid :omgno:

Awful result

Why n0t JEDWARD???? ETERNAL N0MS!!! C0M 0N!!

James didn't need a pass to the final. He was going to be there anyway. :nono: Speidi eternal nomination will bring out Spencer naughty side, which i'm very happy about, lol :devil:

They will be in the final. They have a fanbase that will vote for them no matter what.

Playing the game,

And you nearly had me convinced they weren't doing anything as well:joker:

They're not.

Having their own plan to befriend jedward isn't very interesting since it involves them sitting in the background doing nothing.

What do you want them to do?

They do enough for me to like them this time round. I find spencer really likeable and so easy to watch. Shes nothing special though.

I wouod rather they sat back a bit anyway than come across as desperate as nicola, jamie stacey and calum:shocked:

Sitting back and letting everyone look the dicks is what James C is doing yet he's labelled a bore by this thread.

I'm just pointing out the irony.

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There is irony on both sides, people saying Speidi are boring while bigging up James C Speidi might have sat back but they have been involved, with Austin, with Kim, egging Chloe onto Calum, We would have seen more of them once people left if they avoided eviction, thats how a lot of winners get over the winning line so it's not a bad plan

So what do you want them to do?

The same as what James' critics want him to do.... something. Instead of lying in bed and not partaking. :hee:

I think 'bore' is extremely subjective. What one person enjoys watching could be completely different to what another person enjoys watching. Personally I enjoy watching James so to me he's entertaining, whereas someone like Calum for example might say more and get more air time but personally I get bored watching him because I find him so uninteresting as a person. The Jamie/Bianca love interest thing is another example, technically they're 'doing something' but I find it all very boring, I'd honestly be more entertained watching Cosmo sitting in a chair staring into space :laugh: