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Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683820)
It's called a deduction. You don't have mod support - you know that yourself - and yet you get away with racially hateful comment in post after post relatively free from any repercussions, from my perspective, despite what you have to say about others getting "special treatment".

The only reasonable explanation is that they're being told not to :idc:.

What racially hateful comments , my ‘hateful’ language isn’t a patch on yours.

user104658 06-11-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683817)
When I started here I exchanged some pms with one such great poster on the verge of leaving who had no problems with me, just the one-sided nature of this forum.

How can you still be claiming that it's one sided when you have more backup than opposition in this thread at this very moment?

Like I said, I can only guess it's quality over quantity. Jet plodding about saying "Brillo isn't racist tho" and tough chuff being tough chuff isn't much use, I get that, but still, you can't claim not to have backup. There are at least 3 or 4 others usually happy to jump in and post their little :clap1:'s and :fan:'s to back you up.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683820)
It's called a deduction. You don't have mod support - you know that yourself - and yet you get away with racially hateful comment in post after post relatively free from any repercussions, from my perspective, despite what you have to say about others getting "special treatment".

The only reasonable explanation is that they're being told not to :idc:.

Told not to by whom - who the hell do you think I am - The queen of bl**dy Sheba. I’ve heard it all now. Is this what this is all about some weird notion I am getting some kind of bizarre preferential treatment, you could have fooled me. That makes no sense to anyone but you apparently. Done with you.

user104658 06-11-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683823)
What racially hateful comments , my ‘hateful’ language isn’t a patch on yours.

Only if you consider not being afraid to call racism, racism, "hateful". I consider it a statement of fact. I'm sure you consider your rants about Muslims etc. to be "facts" too but... Umm... That's because you're a bit racist.
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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683822)
That old sectarian chestnut again. I'll never support the IRA and Sinn Fein murderers who killed my friends over those that didn't no matter how much you seem to want me to.

I honestly couldn't care less who or what you support, jet.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683825)
How can you still be claiming that it's one sided when you have more backup than opposition in this thread at this very moment?

Like I said, I can only guess it's quality over quantity. Jet plodding about saying "Brillo isn't racist tho" and tough chuff being tough chuff isn't much use, I get that, but still, you can't claim not to have backup. There are at least 3 or 4 others usually happy to jump in and post their little :clap1:'s and :fan:'s to back you up.

There are other posters who speak their minds and when they see something they consider distasteful they speak up. That’s a good thing even if it doesn’t suit you.

jet 06-11-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683827)
Only if you consider not being afraid to call racism, racism, "hateful". I consider it a statement of fact. I'm sure you consider your rants about Muslims etc. to be "facts" too but... Umm... That's because you're a bit racist. I honestly couldn't care less who or what you support, jet.

Then why have you brought my 'sectarian bias' up twice in the last 3 days out of the blue? Did you get pleasure from reminding me of my losses?

Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683834)
Then why have you brought my 'sectarian bias' up twice in the last 3 days out of the blue? Did you get pleasure from reminding me of my losses?

He’s not worth it Jet.

user104658 06-11-2017 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683834)
Then why have you brought my 'sectarian bias' up twice in the last 3 days out of the blue? Did you get pleasure from reminding me of my losses?

Because the fact that you felt wronged and upset in that thread is the main reason that you now feel the need to jump to the defense of someone else who you feel is in a similar position, even though it really isn't.

As it happens, I do appreciate why you have a bias relating to those specific issues, it is completely understandable, anyone with such personal involvement would. I would have far less issue with Brillo's views and xenophobia if, for example, she had lost family to Islamic extremism.

But as far as I can tell she hasn't, she just likes to froth over tabloid headlines and her own racist, small minded assumptions and subject everyone else to them as well.

Marsh. 06-11-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683717)
Not at all biased with your OTT controlling PC opinions then. You interpret according to your own agenda. Convenient rather than reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683724)
I see the sharks are circling.

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683752)
Oh I forgot, on here those on the left don’t need proof of anything - their word is gospel. :bored:

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683763)
I can smell the venom.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9683767)
We all know why Cherie :wink:

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683771)
We do indeed. Say it at your peril though.

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683775)
So many terrific posters avoid this forum like the plaque. It's truly unpleasant when the gang circle certain posters to get their jollies.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9683780)
Got it in one !! pack attacking cowards

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9683785)
They will rue the day they let all the good posters drift away and kept the riff raff

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683788)
I reacon there will be a lot of silent cheers at that. :hee:

Erm, I thought TS was the one being accused of being personal.

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

I don't think anyone currently on the forum will ever rue the day they allowed the bigoted riff raff to drift off.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683843)
Because the fact that you felt wronged and upset in that thread is the main reason that you now feel the need to jump to the defense of someone else who you feel is in a similar position, even though it really isn't.

As it happens, I do appreciate why you have a bias relating to those specific issues, it is completely understandable, anyone with such personal involvement would. I would have far less issue with Brillo's views and xenophobia if, for example, she had lost family to Islamic extremism.

But as far as I can tell she hasn't, she just likes to froth over tabloid headlines and her own racist, small minded assumptions and subject everyone else to them as well.

You are only ‘subject to my small minded assumptions’ because you choose to as it is entirely your free choice to enter my threads, but you always do. Along with a couple of others you have tried hard to undermine my views and intimidate me off the forum and the fact it hasn’t worked so far annoys the hell out of you it seems.

You know what - tough.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683844)
Erm, I thought TS was the one being accused of being personal.

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

I don't think anyone currently on the forum will ever rue the day they allowed the bigoted riff raff to drift off.

He is quick to dish it it out - it’s called tit for tat. Not an unnatural reaction.

Marsh. 06-11-2017 08:00 PM

Nobody's trying to intimidate anyone off the forum. Don't be so childish.

As long as you have the right to air your views and post your threads, others have the right to comment on what they think of those views.

Marsh. 06-11-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683851)
He is quick to dish it it out - it’s called tit for tat. Not an unnatural reaction.

As I said earlier on in the thread, big difference between calling out on topic posts for what they believe to be racist or anything else over childish name calling.

TS calling out a post related to the discussion in question as being racist or Chuff popping up to call people riff raff. I think everyone knows full well which is the more valid contribution to the forum.

user104658 06-11-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683849)
You are only ‘subject to my small minded assumptions’ because you choose to as it is entirely your free choice to enter my threads, but you always do. Along with a couple of others you have tried hard to undermine my views and intimidate me off the forum and the fact it hasn’t worked so far annoys the hell out of you it seems.

You know what - tough.

Like I said, I for one am not going to give you a "safe space" for your posts to go unchallenged. You're damned right I've tried hard to undermine racist views, and I'll continue to do so until I get bored of it or banned for it. If you don't want people who abhor your views entering your threads to tell you that... I'm afraid that too is "tough".

Brillopad 06-11-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683862)
Like I said, I for one am not going to give you a "safe space" for your posts to go unchallenged. You're damned right I've tried hard to undermine racist views, and I'll continue to do so until I get bored of it or banned for it. If you don't want people who abhor your views entering your threads to tell you that... I'm afraid that too is "tough".

I have never used any unpleasant, nasty racist language - but you interpret my views against mass immigration and disapproval of a sexist religion as ‘racist’. Many, many people have the same concerns but you won’t shut them or me up by resorting to childish name-calling try as you might.

Marsh. 06-11-2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683879)
I have never used any unpleasant, nasty racist language - but you interpret my views against mass immigration and disapproval of a sexist religion as ‘racist’. Many, many people have the same concerns but you won’t shut them or me up by resorting to childish name-calling try as you might.

Many people do have similar concerns. But not all of them have racism as the main influence behind those concerns.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9683882)
Many people do have similar concerns. But not all of them have racism as the main influence behind those concerns.

Keep on shouting it but it will never make it true because you and people like you say so. You cannot force people into your way of thinking by such behaviour. Truth is you enjoy the drama. :nono:

user104658 06-11-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683879)
I have never used any unpleasant, nasty racist language - but you interpret my views against mass immigration and disapproval of a sexist religion as ‘racist’. Many, many people have the same concerns but you won’t shut them or me up by resorting to childish name-calling try as you might.

Yes many people have the same concerns, plenty of others on this forum have some of the same concerns, and while I'll argue against them too I don't think those views are based in a general underlying racism. I think yours are. You feel singled out - Why do you think that is? For me it's because you've made plenty of posts that demonstrate it to be the case that you simply do have a deep rooted level of racial prejudice.

The thing is Brillo... I do actually genuinely believe that you don't see it. You're not "hiding" it, you are just genuinely bewildered about why I (and several people) think your views are often heavily racist. Which makes you better than an unashamed out and out racist, I suppose, but it doesn't make the specific views any better.

Marsh. 06-11-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9683896)
Keep on shouting it but it will never make it true because you and people like you say so. You cannot force people into your way of thinking by such behaviour. Truth is you enjoy the drama. :nono:

Who's forcing what?

I don't remember forcing anyone to think like me or share my view?

jet 06-11-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683843)
Because the fact that you felt wronged and upset in that thread is the main reason that you now feel the need to jump to the defense of someone else who you feel is in a similar position, even though it really isn't.

As it happens, I do appreciate why you have a bias relating to those specific issues, it is completely understandable, anyone with such personal involvement would. I would have far less issue with Brillo's views and xenophobia if, for example, she had lost family to Islamic extremism.

But as far as I can tell she hasn't, she just likes to froth over tabloid headlines and her own racist, small minded assumptions and subject everyone else to them as well.

Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Kizzy 06-11-2017 08:30 PM

*Waits for bold Niamh to show up*
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Withano 06-11-2017 08:33 PM

People often quote and respond to funny/interesting/incorrect/frustrating/stupid/racist(as well as other ists and ophobias) posts. If any member feels as if they're being targetted by several members, its probably because they fit this criteria regularly imo.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683910)
Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Thanks Jet. Despite what some people like to think, I am not made of stone. Things get to me too - but I am stubborn and the more people push the more I push back. I will never give in to that kind of cr*p.

user104658 06-11-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9683910)
Hating Islamic terrorists shouldn't be reserved for those who have lost family to them, should it? Maybe Brillo feels deeply for those who have. I don't really understand your reasoning here.
My support of Brillo has nothing to do with the thread you refer to. I don't always agree with her views, but calling her racist is the easy way out instead of giving her views respectful consideration and understanding her perspective of having strong views and a deep interest in the subjects she posts about, which I do. I don't believe she is racist, many others don't, so maybe YOU are wrong? I simply and genuinely believe she is ganged up on mercilessly and has been for a long time. People are now speaking out against this. About time.

Brillo's opposition to Islamic extremism has absolutely nothing to do with the things that I find to be racist. Brillo's general disdain for pretty much everyone and everything that pertains to anyone from the middle east is what I'm calling racist. Perhaps you've missed those threads? To give an example; there was a thread about a boy from a private school and some sort of issue the school had had with his mother. There was NO personal information about the family, other than their name and a picture showing their race.

None. Their religion isn't mentioned, even, there is no suggestion at all that they were even Muslim.

Brillo launched full force into a rant about "the mothers likely beliefs" and "what these people expect". From a foreign sounding name, and a picture of the son in school uniform.

That is the very definition of racial prejudice. Perhaps you missed that one? Or are you going to argue that it ISN'T racist? There are countless other examples. You aren't on here as much as some of us (not that that's a bad thing; I'm on here waaay too much) but, perhaps, you happen not to have seen the genuinely racist posts that have informed my view over time. They are there. It's not obvious in every post, but once you've seen them, it becomes quite obvious.

Regardless... It doesn't really matter that you or others disagree with me. But I guess if we have to, we'll go back here, again: I'm stating MY OPINION nothing more, I'm not trying to manipulate or state something as a universal truth that all people must believe, no matter how many times you would all like to pretend that I am to distract from my opinion.

Brillopad 06-11-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9683926)
Brillo's opposition to Islamic extremism has absolutely nothing to do with the things that I find to be racist. Brillo's general disdain for pretty much everyone and everything that pertains to anyone from the middle east is what I'm calling racist. Perhaps you've missed those threads? To give an example; there was a thread about a boy from a private school and some sort of issue the school had had with his mother. There was NO personal information about the family, other than their name and a picture showing their race.

None. Their religion isn't mentioned, even, there is no suggestion at all that they were even Muslim.

Brillo launched full force into a rant about "the mothers likely beliefs" and "what these people expect". From a foreign sounding name, and a picture of the son in school uniform.

That is the very definition of racial prejudice. Perhaps you missed that one? Or are you going to argue that it ISN'T racist? There are countless other examples. You aren't on here as much as some of us (not that that's a bad thing; I'm on here waaay too much) but, perhaps, you happen not to have seen the genuinely racist posts that have informed my view over time. They are there. It's not obvious in every post, but once you've seen them, it becomes quite obvious.

Regardless... It doesn't really matter that you or others disagree with me. But I guess if we have to, we'll go back here, again: I'm stating MY OPINION nothing more, I'm not trying to manipulate or state something as a universal truth that all people must believe, no matter how many times you would all like to pretend that I am to distract from my opinion.

It becomes ‘obvious’ to those who see what they want to see.


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