Um, no...a democracy is not exclusively majority rule like you describe

What you are describing is known as the "tyranny of the majority." Not a proper democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

This is why everyone should take a political science class. So many people here don't even know what an actual democracy entails.

1/ this year's CBB is different, it has a theme and it is a serious theme
2/ the reason why there is not much discussion about women rights is because Ms Widdecombe shuts down any such discussions and others let her (her dominant and rigid personality rules the roost in the house)
3/ all women who went into the house with Ann were spouting in their VTs about feminism, equality etc. Sadly those who would have challenged her like Rachel or Maggie were eliminated, others, like the young ones decided not to upset Ann.
4/only Shane J dared to try and question Ann with predictable results. And since his life's work is lgbtq rights, that's the topic he raised. (I can just imagine the rage of some if he dared to speak for women)
5/his support outside is loud and proud because we, lgbtq, support our people trying to fight our corner.
There, the mystery solved.

If a drag queen wins the year of the woman then it will be not just thanks to Shane J, but also thanks to Ann.

Happy bedfellows, no less

Not really :) But Malika is. Glad she is out :)

Nah, but Malika looks just like that type.

I like how a lot of the defence I have seen for Ann is "she is allowed her own opinion!!" Yet when people (e.g. scott) has an opinion on her that is negative, they're denied that opinion... hm

Any examples?

Scott just said "in my opinion she's scum" and in turn you said "not really"

Hm

Well Im glad I read the article, because it really isnt as black & white as some would have us believe. I am also curious to know why no one has passed an opinion on the part of the article where she condemns the men who wanted to execute openly gay muslim men, who apparrentely didnt expect to be punished for printing articles endorsing that view. I liked her view on that, and would agree with punishment being given to anyone endorsing violence against gay people irrespective of their religion. I guess there is danger that some of us might be' converted' to the view that Ann isnt totally evil after all. Closed minds really are quite a dangerous thing.

I disagree, Ann is happy to discuss anything, Shane has said so. Ann would never shut down any discussion of women's rights. She does state that men and women are not the same in degrees of strength but they are in other ways which she fully endorses.

Why would anyone challenge Ann on a subject she agreed with them. Their way might not be her way but the underlying aims were exactly the same.

Shane has rabble roused and tried to cause Ann the most distress which he has failed totally at because all his housemates turned on him and nominated him.

Why does the LGBT brigade want to win by default instead of winning by honest and decent means. Why did Shane go in with info to harm Ann rather than being a housemate and winning on merit. In fact his actions are giving Ann a backing she might not have had if he had chosen to do such. Why you need to view this in such a competitive manner rattling the Gay banner when every other housemate is there only to be themselves. It is hardly a level playing field.

If a drag queen wins, which he should with the backing he has and the tactics deployed, then it is sad for all the women who work every day, bring up a family and enjoy actually being a woman 24/7, not when she wants to win a reality show.

:clap1::clap1:Oh how the truth will be overlooked:wavey:

What does her views on fox hunting have to do with anything?

"Ann Widdecombe votes against gay rights at every opportunity BUT her favourite flavour of crisps are cheese and onion so she can't be all bad".

It wasn't just the fox hunting ban , there's other stuff as well that gets ignored .

Again.... what does that have to do with the price of fish?

Seriously, what does her views on fox hunting have to do with the topic of discussion?

So you're saying you agree with conversion therapy? :think: A mess if true.

If a post basically saying "we'll turn on the gays if they keep calling out homophobia lol" is considered a great post I'd like to see the bad ones :skull:

No Marsh I said it's not just about the fox hunting ban :facepalm: , did you read the post about Muslims above ?.

I read it. You haven't answered my question.

"Ann doesn't want gay people dead so that makes maintaining inequality a good thing"? Huh?

So you have read it , I guess no matter what we'll always disagree and go round in circles . Ann clearly gets on with Shane J when he's not being a sour bitch and she was best friends with Amanda ,why doesn't that stand for anything ?? :facepalm:.

Twist and Shout......

What do you want it to stand for?

You've avoided my question again, so we'll just move on.

Do you remember what Ann said about women equality? she thinks gender is unimportant and called it not equality but a tilted table. She is so close-minded she thinks just because she got ahead with men in parliament therefore all women should get on and stop moaning.
I can't believe you don't remember this and other things? Her view that women complaing about sex abuse in Hollywood knew what was involved? I can't be bothered to go through the whole list of things. :shrug:


Rabble-roused? More like stayed true to his convictions instead of appeasing granny Ann

You don't need any "info" to harm Ann, she provides it herself as she hasn't changed her views since being in parliament and she is not shy to let you know them.
And any sensible person would try to find out who are the people they will ber living with for weeks on TV.
Shane is a campaigner, that's his whole life. That's who he is and he is being himself. You don't blame Wayne for prancing about all the time because he is a dancer? Or Amanda for hamming it up? Some people can't leave things that are their passion at the door.
Shane is not competitive, actually he is the opposite. The patience and moderation he has shown in there is amazing. Not many people would show such maturity. Many exiting housemates said so.
He is not rattling any banners, he is able to talk in respectful way to all of them. Geez, even Ann called him kind tonight.

Shane was gracious to say tonight that he tought a woman should win, didn't he.
If CBB wanted to guarantee a female winner they should have been women only. When it started that's what I thought.
Since it is a popularity contest, even with one man in the mix there is always a chance that that man could win. That's not Shane's fault.

This.
But it is good to know, true colours are coming out.

Democracy gives everyone the right to give opinion...if it comes to the vote the majority wins. You really can't get fairer than that.

Why look for slights when they do not exist. You just wrote a great post but took one line from mine which was then twisted out of context.

I cannot understand why this happens, what do others get by making a meaning out of a post which was not there in the first place. Just to suit their agenda.

I read your post, I didn't agree but will not do it a discourtesy of twisting it or reading something into it which isn't there. That is my true colours, now you know.

Democracy is so much more than just “most votes = winner”

Did you read the wiki article I linked in my post?