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This is very true parmy :wavey:

Hi.:blush:

He's an easy target because he's literally a fascist.

Yup. I can imagine germans saying the same about hitler, he meant well you know:laugh:

Fascism is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism
Doesn't really apply to Trump. He's not been especially nationalistic, and he's rolled back too many regulations to be called overly authoritarian.

characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition,
Nope.


and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Again, he's more into deregulation and free market.

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Nationalistic

adjective

having or expressing strong identification with one's own nation and vigorous support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

When has he done this?

Saying "maybe it's a good idea if we know who's coming into the country" isn't like that.

Actually it is. He's twice tried to implement a Muslim ban, the wall, etc. No doubt you'll have an answer for those but one you wont is pulling out of the Iran deal. That was nationalism one on one.

The muslim ban only applied to a few countries which had been affected by terrorism, and the wall's aim is to stop illegal immigration, not all.

I knew you'd have an answer for that but not the Iran deal. Nicely downplayed.

Trump also want to pull out of NATO. Explain how that and the Iran deal arent acts of nationalism?

Let’s not forget the whole ‘good people on both sides’ thing concerning literal nazis

The independent

The orange moron is a fascist wannabe constrained by the American system

:think: His entire election platform was built on ultranationalism and he's constantly shown isolationist leanings in both domestic actions and international relations. He rolls back things that he doesn't agree with and attempts to hammer in his own ideas in their place. This is just nonsense.


He constantly denounces any opposition to himself as "un-American" or even treasonous. Or he just announces it to be "fake". He employs all sorts of tactics to attempt to make any criticism of himself seem illegitimate and those criticising him incompetent or to have ulterior motives. He removes journalists and reporters who are critical of him from events or bans them from being there in the first place. That is "forcible suppression" in a modern context.


Deregulation and free market? Within the US itself maybe - because he's an ultranationalist. When it comes to international trade, he's taking constant action to outright vilify products from China, and waving trade deals at the UK like a carrot to get us to fall in line with US policy.


Come on.

Neo fascism.

she is to me though, the one who could save america, and FINALLY make the evil super rich pay more taxes as it should

she stands up for all poor people in america, and i hope she'll also demolish the stupid trump wall

There has been mass shootings under lots of presidents time in power.

Presidents themselves have been shot and killed.

People that are willing to kill innocent people including women and children are not right in the head regardless of their reasons for doing it.

Then I guess we should also not forget the actual context of that remark :)

"They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.

"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...f-fascism.html

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/hi...cist-politics/

With Trump its always

White person guns down alot of people - They are mentally Ill and need help

Muslim guns down alot of people - They are a terrorist and they must be all killed

You could say the same about the Nazi party. I'm sure they were some people in that party that wouldn't say boo to a goose, but they were a member of and supported an organisation hell bent on genocide. That's the point.

Not comparable as Trump has never voiced support for genocide.

An attempted ban on all muslims, calling countries ****holes, demeaning latinos may not be genocide, but it enables it.

He never attempted to ban all muslims, the ban was only for a handful of countries which were highly affected by terrorism.
Calling countries ****holes is dodgy language, I agree he shouldn't have said it. I don't know which incident of "demeaning Latinos" you're referring to, but again it was never all of them, unless you know of a quote I haven't encountered.

Here's the rub if you insist on using that logic; the saudis are a huge terror hotspot, providing most of the 9/11 attackers and funding it, the genocide in Yemen also has their dirty hands all over it, and yet Trump and his family said nothing about it, while Jared was busy begging for MBS's money on whatsapp.

If I don't like one black person, so call him a dumb N, is that ok because I didn't mean all black people?