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Ammi 29-08-2019 07:59 AM

...he’s also done it because he’s become the most talked about and controversial PM ever now...I mean, that can’t do his career any harm...all publicity is good publicity as Simon Cowell would say...this will especially expand him out to the USA market as this is such a trump move and everything Trump will think is wonderful...very self serving indeed, cool move Boris...

bots 29-08-2019 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10666893)
A dictator would not ask for permission.

it's exactly what a dictator would do when the permission is always granted

arista 29-08-2019 03:55 PM



Paul Mason set up the Demo last night
Paul wants Violence.

James Whale knows he is bad news.

Twosugars 29-08-2019 04:22 PM

Demo is not violence, chill out Arista

Alf 29-08-2019 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10667049)
He's used his power to shut down and limit opposition to his aims of leaving with no deal.
Something he originally advocated 3 years ago was impossible.

Plus only a few weeks ago stated it was a million to one chance.

He has used power trusted to him, to close down opposing opportunities to stop something that he stated couldn't happen.

Sounds pretty close to dictatorship to me.
Unacceptable, inappropriate and simply wrong to have acted this extreme way.

He could have done a Queen's speech post October 31st.
There's only one reason he's done this now.
Not in the interests of the UK, not in the interests of Parliament, not even, (if any of them develop finally some courage to put their votes where their mouths are), in the interests of his Party.

He's done it to only satisfy the more extreme elements of his Party and others who always wanted the most uncertain and dangerous extreme brexit outcome.

No matter the consequences.

17.4m are still waiting, 3 years later, for their decision to be implemented, because most politicians have been working against the people to stop it. Boris is doing what he can to make sure this gets done and we can finally move on.

I just don't think you're used to a leader showing leadership, because we haven't had a real leader since Mrs Thatcher.

June 23rd 2016, more than 3 years ago. Yet you have been happy to support delay, after delay, after delay.

This time we have someone in charge that tries to get things that the people want, done, And you lot throw a tantrum.

arista 29-08-2019 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10667296)
Demo is not violence, chill out Arista



Paul Mason stated on Newsnight last night
that Violent Demo's will happen


You are not Updated

Twosugars 29-08-2019 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10667315)
Paul Mason stated on Newsnight last night
that Violent Demo's will happen


You are not Updated

They may do but doesn't mean he advocates them

UserSince2005 29-08-2019 04:51 PM

violent demos?

im imagining a lot of toys being thrown out of prams?

Alf 29-08-2019 05:12 PM

Demos like the one in the first of Arista's videos, where all the zombies are all walking around chanting "we are victims"

UserSince2005 29-08-2019 05:14 PM

anyhow if they do start smashing windows or some dumb **** rubber bullet the animals.

joeysteele 29-08-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10667308)
17.4m are still waiting, 3 years later, for their decision to be implemented, because most politicians have been working against the people to stop it. Boris is doing what he can to make sure this gets done and we can finally move on.

I just don't think you're used to a leader showing leadership, because we haven't had a real leader since Mrs Thatcher.

June 23rd 2016, more than 3 years ago. Yet you have been happy to support delay, after delay, after delay.

This time we have someone in charge that tries to get things that the people want, done, And you lot throw a tantrum.


I don't know how many of that 17.4million voted whatever as to their reasons.

However what I'll never believe from anyone is that 17.4 million voted to leave with NO DEAL.
So those keep harping on about 17.4 million voting to leave, have a valid point.

However I'm as certain as I can be nothing like those 17.4 million voted for NO DEAL and for Parliament to be sidelined by a PM in the their name, to ensure no deal became more likely.

Not a chance is that the case, in my view.
Not a chance.

Withano 29-08-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10666276)
Look mate, why you create a thread if you can't stick to its topic?

Go and create one about corbyn and you can rant there

:joker: true

Beso 29-08-2019 06:44 PM

Unless there's something coming after them..Im perched for the water cannons blasting the specks of the lot of them.

Can just imagine..one bloke puffing his pipe in the middle of all the mayhem around him..."we must retire to the staff toom"

Alf 29-08-2019 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10667424)
I don't know how many of that 17.4million voted whatever as to their reasons.

However what I'll never believe from anyone is that 17.4 million voted to leave with NO DEAL.
So those keep harping on about 17.4 million voting to leave, have a valid point.

However I'm as certain as I can be nothing like those 17.4 million voted for NO DEAL and for Parliament to be sidelined by a PM in the their name, to ensure no deal became more likely.

Not a chance is that the case, in my view.
Not a chance.

No deal is the default position. Parliament has been deliberately dithering trying to delay and stop the outcome, The reason no deal is the only outcome is because of them. Boris is just doing his job of what needs to be done.

You want to blame someone for no deal, then blame the remain establishment.

Tom4784 29-08-2019 06:47 PM

I do hope all brexiters are outraged about this since this is an actual example of MPs abusing democracy for their own ends. I've heard so often these past few years that opposing Brexit is undemocratic so I better see some outrage on the Brexters' behalf for this constitutional abuse in order to force us down a path that most brexiters don't even want.

You can't screech at remainers for not 'respecting democracy' and then cheer on this abortion of rights.

It's an utter joke and it will be the end of the union as we know it because Scotland won't stick around (Take me with you!!!) and I think NI will be wrapped up in so much bull**** with a no deal that it'll basically be a separate entity all together.

Boris has gone for the nuclear option here and everyone, regardless of political alignment, should be very worried.

joeysteele 29-08-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10667433)
No deal is the default position. Parliament has been deliberately dithering trying to delay and stop the outcome, The reason no deal is the only outcome is because of them. Boris is just doing his job of what needs to be done.

You want to blame someone for no deal, then blame the remain establishment.



Some of the present BREXIT no deal Cabinet and the bigoted extreme DUP with the ERG of the Con. party are who scuppered leaving with May's deal.

She also sacrificed her then overall majority too in 2017.

Opposition is there, and the clue is in the title, to oppose, not support and save bad governments.

Alf 29-08-2019 06:53 PM

Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

Beso 29-08-2019 06:54 PM

It is China, Germany Iran and Russia fault...and probably Poland as well in the end...if it does become nuclear..

Big days ahead in the future for the g7 held by Trump in America next year.

I heard he wants a g4..not including uk..or any other European country..

Tom4784 29-08-2019 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10667440)
Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

If this has been the opposite way around, that government was shut down in order to ensure an outcome you didn't want, you would rage endlessly about it.

Difference is that most remainers would find it an outrage if that happened as well. Democracy is democracy, if you support what Boris has done then you quite simply oppose democracy and support what is essentially the move of a dictator.

armand.kay 29-08-2019 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10667440)
Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

I think the fact that you see this as a competition that's to be won or lost is...well...nvm

Beso 29-08-2019 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10667447)
If this has been the opposite way around, that government was shut down in order to ensure an outcome you didn't want, you would rage endlessly about it.

Difference is that most remainers would find it an outrage if that happened as well. Democracy is democracy, if you support what Boris has done then you quite simply oppose democracy and support what is essentially the move of a dictator.

Whatifary.

Beso 29-08-2019 07:15 PM

Anyone opposing brexit, or mays plan used thier parliamentary privaliges to block a deal..this is just the same..dissapointing in the queen..Im sure there would have been a way for her to say no..but it's already been pointed out why she said yes.

Tom4784 29-08-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10667452)
Whatifary.

That doesn't work given the context but you do you, sweetie.

Beso 29-08-2019 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10667465)
That doesn't work given the context but you do you, sweetie.

Well check ya self when ya pump it out next time.:hee:

joeysteele 29-08-2019 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10667440)
Bad losers.

You need to learn how to lose with dignity.

Since the 80s there's been those who never wanted the UK in the EU or EEC either, going on moaning for decade after decade.

Even following a near 67% to 33% vote to be in the EEC.

So I'll take no lectures from brexiteers re moaning.


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