Zoe ball and the girl at drive time got their jobs as the BBC were desperate to shoehorn in women to radio 2. Happens all the time with the bbc

I do apologise... ahem...

So, every person of ethnic minority or of the female gender got a pity job and all the white men got theirs on merit?

Cute.

I love Sara Cox. She should have had the breakfast show. All those years I put up with Chris bloody Evans and then we get.... Zoe Ball.

Not every one that would be silly but it's clear you don't follow what has been going on at radio 2cand 4

It's clear you have a problem with diversity, yes. And use such things to mock and ridicule women and people of colour as somehow less than their white male counterparts. We're well aware.

I have a problem with jobs that dont to the best persothe reaso why, because people fear they will get the blame

Just look what happened to Simon mayo on drive

Stuck Jo Whillie in with him ruined the show he left and Sarah Cox is now doing a much worse job and losing listners hand over fist

Diversity my backside, it's people worried about being blamed

I obviously didn't mean that. But hiring for diversity does happen, and it shouldn't.

Something else that shouldn't happen is hiring based on legacy - if anyone but Ben Elton had written that crappy health and safety "comedy" from a few years back, it wouldn't be made.

What page is it on?

Which always happens to be the women and ethnic minorities. You don't have to keep explaining, I understand.

752, paragraph 3

They're the ones who benefit from diversity hiring practices funnily enough lol.

Just like how old white guys usually benefit from being hired based on their names.

Neither things should happen, as both can result in someone getting a job they might not be right for.

Not what I said funnily enough... lol.

I was referring to the people LT points out as "jobs that don't go to the best person".

I.e. a woman or person of colour I don't like therefore I'll take that as confirmation they were hired for their race and/or genitals and nothing else.

It seemed like LT was referring to cases where the best person literally wasn't chosen, and the decision was made based on inconsequential surface traits. I doubt you actually think he was saying women or minorities are never the best person.

What is the name of the **** ?


B o o k.?

Well..Maybe that's the difference between 'lads' and men?...

Oh, it literally wasn't? Oh right, silly me, there was me thinking it was based on your opinions. I didn't realise it literally was based on who you literally think fit the role.

Yes?

Found it yes...you were correct, I'm not used to your jokes

:hee:

It doesn't matter what i think, due to dodgy hiring practices the wrong people sometimes end up getting the position.

Happens everywhere, not just the media.

Well, it kind of does when the people who apparently have undeservedly been given jobs is based on your opinion of them, and they just happen to literally be a woman or POC and therefore literally got their job as a box tick.

Or are you saying you're objectively more equipped to hire people for broadcast television/radio? :joker:

The BBC has diversity commitments, so in some cases that's how women and minorities will have gotten their jobs. That is undeserved.

Sometimes people get jobs because they who-you-know their way in. That is undeserved.

Sometimes people get jobs through nepotism. That is undeserved.


Or a woman, a minority, an industry veteran, or the kid of someone famous will write a great script/perform a great audition/be really funny ... And get hired. That is deserved.

Not really. Having a policy to raise racial/gender diversity doesn't equate to hiring any woman or POC that walks through the door. That's just plucking at an excuse so that any woman or POC that you don't like gets the "hired on their genetics not their talent" label. It's bullish*t.

Their gender or ethnicity shouldn't come into it.

Having more women and/or minorities isn't a good or bad thing. What matters is how good they are at their job.

I never said it wasn't. You are assuming how good they are at their job does not come into it. You're showing your own colours with that one.