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arista 08-10-2023 11:13 PM

Yes, terrible to crouch down in your car,
Staying alive

arista 08-10-2023 11:19 PM

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arista 08-10-2023 11:27 PM

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arista 09-10-2023 12:47 AM

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arista 09-10-2023 12:54 AM


Anger at the BBC

who will not call Hamas "Terrorists"

Every other News station is calling Hamas
"Terrorists"

OnTheRight 09-10-2023 04:09 AM

I hope Israel go hard and smash the terrorists.

Vanessa 09-10-2023 04:48 AM

Hamas is not doing the Palestinians any favours. They are terrorists and I hope Israel goes on them hard.

Crimson Dynamo 09-10-2023 06:57 AM

BBC calling these terrorists militants should be reason enough to never, ever pay the license fee again

dont pay

Nicky91 09-10-2023 07:43 AM

not choosing either side myself in this


Hamas are bad


but Israel are bad too

Cherie 09-10-2023 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11339265)

what hard men they are, parading around the body of a young girl who wasn't even Israeli.....

Crimson Dynamo 09-10-2023 08:04 AM


arista 09-10-2023 08:37 AM

Yes in the UK
they are Terrorists,
but the BBC say Hamas are militants?

They could tell the British Public
why they are against calling them Terrorists.

Nicky91 09-10-2023 08:44 AM

they aren't terrorists

ISIL, Al Qaeda that are terrorists


Hamas are a militant organization, also said so by its wikipedia article
Quote:

is a Palestinian Sunni-Islamic fundamentalist, militant, and nationalist organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas


certain countries have labelled them ''terrorists'' yes but they are officially ''militants'' so BBC are kinda correct, to say something different than how politicians label them

Nicky91 09-10-2023 08:46 AM

as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup :facepalm:


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now

joeysteele 09-10-2023 08:51 AM

This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.

Crimson Dynamo 09-10-2023 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11339435)
as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup :facepalm:


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now

Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation under UK law

wikipedia is bollox and changes daily like the wind

arista 09-10-2023 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11339440)
This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.


Prisoner Exchange
could be set up
by a 3rd party.

arista 09-10-2023 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11339396)
what hard men they are, parading around the body of a young girl who wasn't even Israeli.....


Massive Hamas Error.

bots 09-10-2023 09:16 AM

this conflict is going to expand, it's inevitable. I hate to think where this is going to end

Livia 09-10-2023 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11339373)
not choosing either side myself in this


Hamas are bad


but Israel are bad too

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11339432)
they aren't terrorists

ISIL, Al Qaeda that are terrorists


Hamas are a militant organization, also said so by its wikipedia article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas


certain countries have labelled them ''terrorists'' yes but they are officially ''militants'' so BBC are kinda correct, to say something different than how politicians label them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11339435)
as if Israel are that perfect anyway, answering violence with more violence yup :facepalm:


not every palestinian is part of Hamas though, and i bet israeli's have killed many innocents too



and this is not something from now, but something what has been going on for more than 40 years now


You've said some pretty dumb-arse stuff on here... but this takes the biscuit.

user104658 09-10-2023 09:49 AM

I think this is a particularly sad example of war - which of course is always devastating. Politically it's near-impossible to paint a good guy/bad guy scenario. Realistically, that's pretty much always the case (the world operates in the grey, that's just how it is) but even moreso here; an insurgency led by terrorism can never be seen as a good thing. Israeli apartheid, and the abysmal conditions in Palestine that contribute to radicalisation can never be seen as a good thing, and in terms of global history, the fact that Israel exists as a state at all is a complete political anomaly -- endless bloodshed being an all but inevitable part of it, which the Powers The Be at the time simply MUST have known. And the justification is largely religion/bloodright type stuff which is of course ... questionable.

But on top of that; the vast majority of the victims, even moreso than a "conventional" war, are going to be innocent civilians who have absolutely nothing to do with the politics of it. The terrorist atrocities carried out against innocent people in Israel are unthinkable. Israel will undoubtedly respond with a bombing campaign, perhaps a US-style "shock and awe" bombing campain, and the victims will mostly be ... again ... innocent people.

It's a really abysmal war.

user104658 09-10-2023 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11339440)
This is really worrying and desperately sad.

However for me, Israel's patience has been pushed to the limit.
I am sorry for all losses of lives in wars or otherwise.
However I stand completely with Israel and it's right to defend itself.

I just hope this new conflict can be defused as quickly as possible.

I agree Joey I just hope they defend themselves with scalpels rather than sledgehammers... but I just can't see that being the case. I think Palestine may well be reduced to rubble, and that goes beyond reasonable defense.

Oliver_W 09-10-2023 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11339494)
I agree Joey I just hope they defend themselves with scalpels rather than sledgehammers... but I just can't see that being the case. I think Palestine may well be reduced to rubble, and that goes beyond reasonable defense.

The best result for everyone involved (especially Palestinians) would be the rapid removal of Hamas.


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