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Originally posted by FrenchAffair
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Originally posted by farhad
Your a lyer and your quoting Bible verses
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Whats a lyer?
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Furthermore, Women in arabia had short life span, they died at the age of 35, so it was common sense they got married after they hit puberty. How did Prophet raped her when her parents offered her to him and she accepted it. Please stop quoting Bible verses.
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How old was Muhammads first wife when he married and raped ashia? How old was his 2nd wife, his 3rd wife, his 4th wife..... they were all over 30 mate.... yet he had to have a little 9 year old girl.
You know what that makes him, a pedophile.
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Balah Blah Blah, Still it is well known that people in arabia and throughout the world had short life span, Girls in Britain were betrothed at the age of 4, that is what peadophelia is is when the child hasn't passed their puberty. Prophet Got engaged to Aisha at 9 and consumated at 13, some say 16, either way there is proof she might of been 27 at the time of Hijrah. Rape is something when you go aganst someones will, did Prophet go against her will or hit consented from her. Suppose your correct, than why would a sex greedy man marry someone who is well older than him, most of his marriage wasn't for lust, but for political reasons, such as widows. First Bring your proof and evidence then make the accusation.
You should take into account that people often didn't live past 40, so 9 years old would be the equivilent of our 17 or 18.
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"Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman." (Ishaq:584)
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Never heard of this, its not in the quran so stop quoting something that isn't there and provide source before doing it. Womens in Islam are respected and honoured and given right, the voting system for women was stolen from Prophet Mohammed's saying.
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You have never hard of Ibn Ishaq and you call youself a Muslim? No wonder you are so unedcuated about Islam. He collected oral traditions that formed the basis of first biography of Muhammad.
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I think its you who dont know any history or anything about Islam, notice you quoted a secondary source over Quran. No books hold authority over Quran, that be it Hadith. Also before quoting something, first quote the full verse, I can see what your trying to do by quoting part of the line and not inserting the whole, so you could put your point across.
Something that isn't directly found in the quran or contradicts the Quran, the word of Allah, I will never take that source as authentic. I know who Ishaq is, then there are few of his things contradict the quran, or maybe it may have been fabricated. First bring your proof from the Quran first then bring the secondary sources, these books should not hold the candle of word of God which is the Quran. Either no other religion which could be said gave right to women, only Islam has. No religion spoke about freedom of faith whilst quran said "No Compulsion in Religion", a black equal to white was completely unheard of until couple of decades where racism here was made illegal, and 1400 centuries Prophet said a Black and white are all equal.
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Much of the text of the Sirah Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq (Medina 85 A.H. - Bagdad 151 A.H.) was copied over by Ibn Hisham (Basra 1xy A.H. - Fustat, Egypt, 218 or 213 A.H.) into a work of his own. Ibn Hisham also "abbreviated, annotated, and sometimes altered" the text (Guillaume, at xvii). Interpolations of Ibn Hisham are recognizable and can be deleted, leaving as a remainder an "edited" version of Ibn Ishaq, whose original version is lost.
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Its believe some of original works of Ishaq have been lost and altered by people. Either way if some these contradicts, we are guided to go back to the Quran, none of these books should hold candle to the word of God, Books like Hadith are word of people, some may be right some may misheard, some were heresay.
