Incredibly strong speech I agree.

It's devastating and heartbreaking.

solid statements from South Africa :clap1: :clap1:


the root of the problem of Israel with gaza is way deeper than just the Hamas terrorists




Asia's AFC were so correct in kicking these trolls out back then, UEFA and EBU need to follow their example tbh



i am never gonna be silent anymore on May 4th for Israel :idc: i'll be silent for palestinians instead

Either way, it's appreciated x

I've been following this. Amazing speech. I really hope Palestine win this.
I know ri won't change anything, but at least they're trying

The land has always belonged to Palestine. Israel stole it by force.

yup

President Abbas (88 years old nowadays btw) his family fled to Syria back in the 1948 Palestine War, first israeli-palestinian conflict


you can find every bit of information on wikipedia :)


Hamas was created after Israel occupied palestinian territory back in 1967 as a means of defending themselves against their aggressor



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i am not antisemitic, what was done to the jewish people in 40-45 is also horrible yes, but no need to do the exact same thing to the palestinians either :idc: this pisses me off that their ego's are too huge for them not to see the mistakes they made

thats just not true Vanessa, please verify your historical information about the origins of Israel

Palestine was a name given to the area by the Romans 2000 years ago during their occupation, six hundred years before the birth of Islam. It was a derogatory term. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from but it's not a reliable source.

Israel didn't even steal the land they were given it by us. And we sort of inherited it. I guess it was definitely the plaything of empires though so it was at SOME point stolen from someone ... I guess you could accuse them of handling stolen goods :think:.

But not really because the USA exists, and for the USA to exist legitimately we have to accept Lockian philosophy as valid, and if Lockian philosophy is valid then Israel belonged to the Palestinians before Britain signed it over as Israeli land.

It all gets a bit silly if you think about it too much because at the end of the day, physical borders are imaginary things that we just sort of made up. They don't actually exist, they just represent a status quo agreement.

I didn’t see it before but I can definitely see why there was accusations of antisemitism on here

I do have to bear in mind that it’s mostly baiting… but still. Gross

Israel occupied palestinian territory in 1948, since then this war has been going on

Hamas was formed as a means of defence in 1967

what a lame response from Israel at south africa's statements, again saying Hamas using palestinians as human shields

tell us something we don't know already :idc: and u could've used help from USA their navy seals to fight terrorism honestly with a more cleaner, preciser approach


so lame ******* excuse from IDF now :idc:

Sadly
Two Hostages
have been shown dead in Gaza

A Video showed the two.

Hamas said an IDF missile killed them.


All Media,

Photo of the 2 hostages, Killed.

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...2a4ef1b4ad.png

:clap1:

well said Benny, demolish palestine entirely

The eradication of Gaza has been such a clear goal in this conflict that this was an inevitability. At this point I'm fairly convinced - like 80% convinced - they deliberately poked a hole in their anti-terrorism defense measures and leaked it. Not entirely a false flag per se but I think they, plain and simple, desperately wanted a justification for a ground invasion of Gaza. I think there are probably some extremely frustrated individuals out there because the world's reaction has been so mixed.

honestly, words have no meaning in this conflict now, we just have to see how it all plays out

Genocide, not conflict.

How I'd love to think that wasn't so.

However once Netanyahu was back in power in Israel.
I expected conflict to be more than likely.

I'm more in agreement with your post above now.
I'm dismayed and disgusted at the now endless slaughtering of innocents Inc children going on.
Heartbreaking.

I think you may well be shown to be right on that too.
Awful.