Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10685510)

You should have used Janis Joplin's "Maybe" I'd have enjoyed that more.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10685521)

[And any attempt at such tomfoolery can and would
be quashed by the High Court on the basic Padfield
constitutional principle within a couple of days, if not a few hours]

Yes TwoSugars
Johnson PM said (today on TV news interviews)
he is not doing that , yet.

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10685525)

Yet :hee:
He is not doing that full stop bc it is not allowed

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10685448)

We all do. "What he's on" is "an international bank balance big enough to not have to worry about it".

But I disagree that he's not bothered, the one thing he does have to lose is his ego and I think he's furious that he doesn't seem to be able to just lob his weight around like a mini Trump. He seems the same as ever because "bouncy Boris" is an act he's been honing since his teens. There's a documentary about his school days / early career around somewhere... it's fascinating. But yeah, his Boris persona (it's not even his real name) is attached to his face with Flex Tape. It's going nowhere and you can't trust that his demeanor reflects his thoughts 99% of the time. When it does slip, there are glimpses of the frustration of an arrogant man who isn't quite getting the world to mould around him.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10685455)

That's not the point; the city that rejects the Murdoch press is against leave, whereas the one that doesn't, wants to leave. Shows the devastating ability of the press to feed lies and propaganda into the public consciousness.

Originally Posted by James (Post 10685542)

The Times is Murdoch owned, and it is pro-remain. These papers are are more about following what they think are the views of their readers rather than leading them.

Generally in the 2016 referendum the bigger cities voted more Remain than other areas. For example Manchester had an even bigger Remain share than Liverpool. London, Cardiff, Leicester, Newcastle, Bristol etc. voted Remain.

It is quite noticeable in the results - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resu...hip_referendum

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10685544)

The times campaigned for leave, only Sunday times was for remain

Originally Posted by James (Post 10685545)

According to this it was Leave - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...tain-qzj0x609m

Their front pages now are quite anti-Brexit now also.

Originally Posted by James (Post 10685542)

The Times is Murdoch owned, and it is pro-remain. These papers are are more about following what they think are the views of their readers rather than leading them.

Generally in the 2016 referendum the bigger cities voted more Remain than other areas. For example Manchester had an even bigger Remain share than Liverpool. London, Cardiff, Leicester, Newcastle, Bristol etc. voted Remain.

It is quite noticeable in the results - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resu...hip_referendum

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10685663)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

Jesus ****ing christ..this guy..translated

'death threats should be expected while MPs are trying to come to a deal that will not knack the country and inflame everything with ROI. Some people who voted to leave are upset that we are not just crashing out, so of course they will make threats and they are entitled to do so and we should understand the anger'

:umm2:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10685663)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

Jesus ****ing christ..this guy..translated

'death threats should be expected while MPs are trying to come to a deal that will not knack the country and inflame everything with ROI. Some people who voted to leave are upset that we are not just crashing out, so of course they will make threats and they are entitled to do so and we should understand the anger'

:umm2:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10685684)

If you read between the lines, he's saying that the only way to end the violence and threats is to leave.

Yet the remain/leave split is more or less 50/50. But if we leave, the same problems won't occur. So essentially he's admitting that the vast majority of the violence and thuggery is from those who want to leave :idc:.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10685686)

Nice country ya got there...

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10685693)

To be fair, what's changed other than that we've stopped pretending?

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10685705)

If the leave voters don't get their vote implemted, which so far doesn't seem to be happening. Can I ask, what do you expect them to do?

Do you expect them to just be submissive and surrender?

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10685639)

Incorrect

Parliament is making sure we have a deal, precisely as the leave side promised

“Taking back control is a careful change, not a sudden stop,” the campaign pledged. “We will negotiate the terms of a new deal before we start any legal process to leave.” The same campaign document—which can still be read on its website—also promised that the UK would be part of “a free trade zone from Iceland to Turkey and the Russian border.” If we leave without a deal—as those prominent Brexiteers are now advocating—that will be impossible.

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/our_case.html

From the horse's mouth
Leave campaign own website

Lies from liars

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10685708)

I will respond with my post fro another thread



As we see people didnt vote for no deal brexit

You should support attempts to get a deal or a second referendum

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10685711)

We didn't vote for a deal Brexit either.

We just voted to leave the EU, let's leave.

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10685713)

You voted based on what was campaigned.
No changing of goal posts.