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h3llb1tch 07-08-2009 11:16 AM

Lisa - Justified hatred or unacceptable homophobia?
 
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...

CaudleHalbard 07-08-2009 11:18 AM

Lisa's first row was with Marcus wasn't it?

She came across a bit man hating in that one!

hennessy 07-08-2009 11:18 AM

Your 1st post is this?
Even the people that want Halfwit out acknowledge that Lisa bullied Halfwit

karezza 07-08-2009 11:19 AM

She is a nasty, vile, moronic bully.:yuk:

charmingmissc 07-08-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...


lisa's sexuality is none of my business,
i just don't like the whole person.

Nebi 07-08-2009 11:19 AM

For me I don't care if she's a lesbian or not. It got nothing to do with it. When people mention bullying its because they group 2 or 3 and attack one person.

To be fair, both side did it and no one is right or wrong when it comes down to it.

Lisa can fancy woman, man, both or her Ipod it doesn't change anything.

Showstopper 07-08-2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...
Rubbish - Bea is not liked and she is a relitively attractive straight woman

hennessy 07-08-2009 11:21 AM

maybe you're heterophobic?

Melly.Moo 07-08-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...

You have no idea!

jet 07-08-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...
GREAT POST! :thumbs:

NettoSuperstar! 07-08-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...
you are so far off the mark its untrue, if I could be bothered to argue anymore...

stickydatepudding 07-08-2009 11:23 AM

I'm a lesbian, and that's a load of rot. People don't like Lisa for perfectly justified reasons - because she and the others did bully Halfwit and Angel. Some videos which someone on DSBB compiled:


Blueisthecolour 07-08-2009 11:24 AM

The whole point of the original post is rubbish in my view.

Lisa comes across as a very unpleasant, lazy , manipulative person.
That has nothing to do with homophobia, it's more like arseholepobia.


As showstopper said, Bea is a tall, blonde, straight woman and has many detractors.

jet 07-08-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Showstopper
Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
I have watched BB10 from day 1 and although I have witnessed Lisa and Halfwit arguing, I'm not sure how this falls into the category of Lisa bullying.

Lisa has never liked Halfwit and has made her feelings about him clear. I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

Bullying occurs when one party is physically, mentally or emotionally superior (or stronger) than the other.

Halfwit does not strike me as the "victim" type. He is more than capable of defending himself.

Lisa, however, tends to have been (falsely) lumped into the aggressive, intimidating, man-hating lesbian stereotype. If ANYONE else had had the confrontations with Halfwit that she has had, would people be so quick to brand them a bully?

I somehow doubt it. If Lisa had been a gorgeous, straight woman treating Halfwit the way she did, there is no way she would be universally hated.

As to Lisa "controlling" people in the house. What utter nonsense, born more from homophobic ignorance than any sound basis in fact or reason.

If anyone in the house has been bullied it has been David. He has been honest and genuine and has had nothing but untrue, unsubstantiated slander slung against him. Yet he has managed to defend himself calmly and with grace.

Whoever supports Halfwit must have a very warped and twisted mindset. He is the least genuine housemate... constantly banging on about everyone else's gameplan when it is abundantly apparent that his is the biggest gameplan of them all...
Rubbish - Bea is not liked and she is a relitively attractive straight woman
Bea is not liked for other reasons. SHE is a bully yet that isn't splashed about with her name on dozens of threads. Nor is she the recipient of vile homophobic comments.

h3llb1tch 07-08-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Showstopper

Rubbish - Bea is not liked and she is a relitively attractive straight woman
The difference is, Bea actually IS a controlling, manipulative, scheming bitch...

Yet Halfwit seems to like her.

jet 07-08-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
The whole point of the original post is rubbish in my view.

Lisa comes across as a very unpleasant, lazy , manipulative person.
That has nothing to do with homophobia, it's more like arseholepobia.


As showstopper said, Bea is a tall, blonde, straight woman and has many detractors.
Like many people, you refuse to see the homophobic comments made about Lisa, and therefore all homosexuals.

IsleOfWeather 07-08-2009 11:26 AM

she is a man hater. jealous. a moaner. lazy.

other times she has some compassion.

But being a lesbo is not the reason most dislike her.

IsleOfWeather 07-08-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jet
Quote:

Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
The whole point of the original post is rubbish in my view.

Lisa comes across as a very unpleasant, lazy , manipulative person.
That has nothing to do with homophobia, it's more like arseholepobia.


As showstopper said, Bea is a tall, blonde, straight woman and has many detractors.
Like many people, you refuse to see the homophobic comments made about Lisa, and therefore all homosexuals.

get over the homophobia thing

Blueisthecolour 07-08-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jet
Bea is not liked for other reasons. SHE is a bully yet that isn't splashed about with her name on dozens of threads. Nor is she the recipient of vile homophobic comments.

You really have got to be having a laugh haven't you?

The number of Bea hating threads is incredible.
People have said they would like to see physical violence done to her.

I suggest you look at the threads a bit more closely, really.

Lisa is foul, her sexuality is irrelevant.

h3llb1tch 07-08-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
get over the homophobia thing
It's not just about homophobia.
If Lisa was a "lipstick" lesbian who was sexually appealing to men, she would not suffer all the unfair and unjustified PERSONAL attacks that she does...

It's more about how shallow and deluded and hateful a society we are...

jet 07-08-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Quote:

Originally posted by jet
Quote:

Originally posted by Blueisthecolour
The whole point of the original post is rubbish in my view.

Lisa comes across as a very unpleasant, lazy , manipulative person.
That has nothing to do with homophobia, it's more like arseholepobia.


As showstopper said, Bea is a tall, blonde, straight woman and has many detractors.
Like many people, you refuse to see the homophobic comments made about Lisa, and therefore all homosexuals.

get over the homophobia thing
No.

Blueisthecolour 07-08-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
It's more about how shallow and deluded and hateful a person Lisa is...
True, true...

Shasown 07-08-2009 11:38 AM

Would have made as much sense if the OP had said all the hate was because she was a brummie. Its a very D.S. like post

hennessy 07-08-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
Quote:

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
get over the homophobia thing
It's not just about homophobia.
If Lisa was a "lipstick" lesbian who was sexually appealing to men, she would not suffer all the unfair and unjustified PERSONAL attacks that she does...

It's more about how shallow and deluded and hateful a society we are...
Thread title ; Justified hatred or unacceptable homophobia?

sound's like it kinda does

NettoSuperstar! 07-08-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h3llb1tch
Quote:

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
get over the homophobia thing
It's not just about homophobia.
If Lisa was a "lipstick" lesbian who was sexually appealing to men, she would not suffer all the unfair and unjustified PERSONAL attacks that she does...

It's more about how shallow and deluded and hateful a society we are...
No no its about how shallow deluded and hateful Lisa is:thumbs:


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