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letmein 17-12-2009 12:36 AM

BBC Slammed For Debating Whether Uganda Should Execute Gays
 
LONDON " The British Broadcasting Corp. suffered criticism from lawmakers Wednesday for inviting debate on whether homosexuals should face execution in Uganda.

The broadcaster launched an on-line debate over a proposed Ugandan law that would punish some homosexual acts by life imprisonment or death. Legislation being considered in the African country would impose the death penalty on some gay Ugandans, and their family and friends could face up to seven years in jail if they fail to report their homosexuality to authorities.

BBC's "Africa Have Your Say" Web site asked for people's views on whether Uganda has gone too far and whether there should be any laws against gays.

The page's title was originally "Should homosexuals face execution?" but was later changed to "Should Uganda debate gay execution?" Several British politicians said the taxpayer-funded broadcaster should not treat the execution of gays as a legitimate topic for discussion.

"We should be looking at what is going on in Uganda with abhorrence," said lawmaker Eric Joyce of the ruling Labour Party. "We should be condemning it, and the BBC should be condemning it. ... Instead it seems to have thought it appropriate to come up with something that suggests it's a subject for discussion."

Lynne Featherstone, a lawmaker from the opposition Liberal Democrats, said she has written to BBC executives seeking an apology and an end to the Web discussion.

"Suggesting that the state-sponsored murder of gay people is OK as a legitimate topic for debate is deeply offensive," she said.

The forum attracted more than 600 comments and triggered a lively Twitter discussion.

The BBC's World Service Africa program editor, David Stead, defended the debate. In a blog posted on the BBC Web site, he said editors had "thought long and hard about using this question" and sought to reflect the diverse views about homosexuality in Africa.

"We agree that it is a stark and challenging question, but think that it accurately focuses on and illustrates the real issue at stake," he said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_394894.html

InOne 17-12-2009 12:39 AM

Well don't debate it, put a stop to it, is it any wonder Uganda is a 3rd world country?

Mrluvaluva 17-12-2009 12:58 AM

It seems ridiculous in this day and age. It should not be an option full stop. Sometimes I think the world is going backwards instead of forwards.

arista 17-12-2009 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 2768973)
It seems ridiculous in this day and age. It should not be an option full stop. Sometimes I think the world is going backwards instead of forwards.

Yes the BBC
has gone stupid on this.

Crimson Dynamo 17-12-2009 08:34 AM

lol at Uganda full stop

Sticks 17-12-2009 09:45 AM

What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

Crimson Dynamo 17-12-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 2769783)
What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

who needs a "right"?

:conf:

Niamh. 17-12-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 2769783)
What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

I have to strongly disagree with that sticks, people are people and this is a human rights issue that other countries should step and stop as they are murdering people.

lime 17-12-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 2769783)
What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

Oh right ,so there should have been no sanctions imposed against South Africa .Apartheid was our business and we should have been allowed to carry on ??

I love these folks with bible in hand and blindfold tied securely to eyes :rolleyes:

Niamh. 17-12-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime (Post 2769818)
Oh right ,so there should have been no sanctions imposed against South Africa .Apartheid was our business and we should have been allowed to carry on ??

I love these folks with bible in hand and blindfold tied securely to eyes :rolleyes:

Absolutely, these are innocent people being murdered so it should be the worlds business to put a stop to it!!

lime 17-12-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2769820)
Absolutely, these are innocent people being murdered so it should be the worlds business to put a stop to it!!

Unfortunetly ,I don't believe it will be stopped .it will carry on and we will all probably forget about it very soon,sadly.It's not likely to make news here in Europe for awhile again.Shame.!!!

Niamh. 17-12-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime (Post 2769840)
Unfortunetly ,I don't believe it will be stopped .it will carry on and we will all probably forget about it very soon,sadly.It's not likely to make news here in Europe for awhile again.Shame.!!!

Yes it is a shame, we're all too wrapped up in our lives to think about other peoples hardships

Dr.Gonzo 17-12-2009 11:41 AM

Have the gays done anything wrong or are we just going to kill them for bumming?

Niamh. 17-12-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 2769846)
Have the gays done anything wrong or are we just going to kill them for bumming?

Being Gay is what they have done Gonzo!

Dr.Gonzo 17-12-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 2769848)
Being Gay is what they have done Gonzo!

Wow, seems kinda harsh. O well, at least they had fun.

Crimson Dynamo 17-12-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 2769850)
Wow, seems kinda harsh. O well, at least they had fun.

can they not just take away their mobiles or disconnect their internet for a year?

Dr.Gonzo 17-12-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 2769865)
can they not just take away their mobiles or disconnect their internet for a year?

I don't think that would stop them putting their penises in each other though. Better plans must be designed before the gayness spreads!

On a serious note... this is completely nutty, although it is everyone's right to debate what they wish to debate - it is through debate and discussion that we learn.

WOMBAI 17-12-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 2769783)
What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

What sort of arguement is that! So if the rest of the world are aware that mass murder is going on by a government in some country - they are supposed to ignore it - under the guise that it is none of their business. Human rights are everyone's business - that is just a cop-out - just an excuse for turning a blind eye when it suits you!

Crimson Dynamo 17-12-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMBAI (Post 2769871)
What sort of arguement is that! So if the rest of the world are aware that mass murder is going on by a government in some country - they are supposed to ignore it - under the guise that it is none of their business. Human rights are everyone's business - that is just a cop-out - just an excuse for turning a blind eye when it suits you!

witness nazi Germany for example

Mrluvaluva 17-12-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 2769783)
What right have we to criticise the judicial affairs of another sovereign state

None that I can think of

This is a debate purely for the citizens of Uganda and nobody else.

I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

atieah2009 17-12-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 2769993)
I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

They should not have the right to execute Homosexuals, but i don't see a way in which the UK or EU can stop this.

Dr.Gonzo 17-12-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 2769993)
I have to totally disagree with that. We should not just stand by and let them get on with it. Why, maybe they could go further and persecute people for the colour of their skin or possibly their religious persuasion? Would you find this acceptable in the UK if such a law was passed? Would you not expect others to intervene to stop such abhorrent victimisation? Many people have strived to educate people on such matters and have lost their freedom, or lives along the way fighting such injustices. In your eyes should we stop and just let governments do as they please? That seems pretty backward to me.

What do you suggest we do? Send our troops to yet another hole of a country and tell another bunch of animals how to bury their ****? It hasn't worked out well in the past. We should keep our noses out and let them deal with things how they want. Troops went to Vietnam; troops went to Afghanistan... and it never ends well. We are a small but great nation, and we should be happy with that. Let others do as they will. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Mrluvaluva 17-12-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo (Post 2770012)
What do you suggest we do? Send our troops to yet another hole of a country and tell another bunch of animals how to bury their ****? It hasn't worked out well in the past. We should keep our noses out and let them deal with things how they want. Troops went to Vietnam; troops went to Afghanistan... and it never ends well. We are a small but great nation, and we should be happy with that. Let others do as they will. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

Dr.Gonzo 17-12-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 2770048)
Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

There are injustices in every country... we just don't have the troops to combat everything we as a nation do not agree with.

atieah2009 17-12-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 2770048)
Wars are fought and there are casualties along the way, but they are fought to combat injustices, and for the better of the people in most cases. If the world sat by and let things happen I would not like to comprehend where we might be today with such an attitude.

Bang on. The wars helped kids not to get raped and abused by the Paedo talibans and the treatment of woman there was ridiculous as in Iraq Saddam tortured civilians the way they would be treated 1000 years ago. Send troops in
show them how the big boys do it.


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