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MarkWaldorf 25-02-2010 02:52 PM

Beyonce and her father are thieves, tbh.
 
i've been pretty vocal about how i hate it when beyonce gets so much recognition, when actually she's a proven thief just to get song credits and it seems like another song writer has spoken about it! and her father is known for paying off award shows and stuff to get her awards, so i got past that a while ago. she even takes credit for single ladies, which the producer revealed she had nothing to do with and ironically she won 'song of the year' at the grammys for it, which goes to composers.

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Some people may choose to turn a blind eye to it, but it’s no secret that superstar diva Beyonce has a reputation for lying about her abilities as a songwriter, and has even been proven on multiple occasions to have not written some of the music that has her name on the credits.

Well now popular producer Rob Fusari (best known for working with Lady GaGa) has publicly put Beyonce and her father Mathew Knowles on blast for lying about the #1 hit “Bootylicious”, which Fusari wrote and produced back in 2001 when he first trying to make a name for himself in the industry.

I came up with the idea to build a track using the guitar riff from Stevie Nicks’ “Edge of Seventeen.” I really wanted to play the riff from “Eye of the Tiger,” but I was flipping through my CDs in the studio and I couldn’t find it. But I saw the Stevie Nicks CD and I remembered that the riff was similar.

I figured I’d put the guitar loop on there temporarily, and later go into the studio with a guitar and replay it, because I’d learned, after sampling Stevie Wonder’s “I Wish” for Will Smith’s “Wild Wild West,” that I didn’t want to lose 50% of the publishing. I vividly remember telling Mathew Knowles, “Mathew, you got to book me into your studio and let me replay that riff.” It was Guitar 101! One note!

He didn’t want to do it. So 50% got cut for one note. That whole experience was bittersweet for me.

He then continues, recalling an incident in which he saw Beyonce on TV taking credit for the song, which then led to an altercation with her father Mathew.

I remember watching Barbara Walters interview Beyoncé about “Bootylicious,” and she told Barbara about how she came up with the idea for the track. And I was just like, “What?” I called Mathew-which was a big mistake; I got emotional, and I apologized after-but I called Mathew and said, “Mathew, like, why?”

And he explained to me, in a nice way, he said, “People don’t want to hear about Rob Fusari, producer from Livingston, N.J. No offense, but that’s not what sells records. What sells records is people believing that the artist is everything.” And I’m like, “Yeah, I know, Mathew. I understand the game. But come on, I’m trying too. I’m a squirrel trying to get a nut, too.”

http://www.theprophetblog.net/produc...it-for-my-idea

InOne 25-02-2010 05:42 PM

I got jumped on when I made my Beyonce hate thread :X lol

Sophii3x 25-02-2010 05:46 PM

Omg, urgh. I heared she PAYS to have her name on writing credits,it's discusting.

Twilight 25-02-2010 05:50 PM

Wow that actually made me dislike her even more

InOne 25-02-2010 05:54 PM

She is a joke really.

M X 25-02-2010 06:10 PM

;o ;o ;o

Loukas 25-02-2010 06:15 PM

:O!
Wowa WooWah! I'm disappointed. I still like her but I'm going to think twice now when she gets interviewed..

Thanks for that Mark :)

MissKittyFantastico 25-02-2010 06:16 PM

I really didn't know any of this.....

Still love her but...yeah.

Zippy 25-02-2010 07:41 PM

I think she is an amazing performer, great singer and stunningly gorgeous. I dont actually care if she wrote her songs to the extent she claims. She cant be brilliant at everything.

And Bootylicious isn't one of her greatest hits IMO so its no big deal if she didnt write that one.

Firewire 25-02-2010 07:43 PM

She does it all the time tbh.

Epsecially with the Halo / Already Gone argument.

xDramatick 25-02-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 3031532)
She does it all the time tbh.

Epsecially with the Halo / Already Gone argument.

Don't forget about the Crazy In Love, Deja Vu, Irreplacable, and If I Were A Boy thefts too!

THIS is why I've always disliked Beyonce, she's way too overrated as an 'artist'.

Billy 25-02-2010 09:11 PM

I can't stand her.

Kelly Rowland > The ugly one > Aids > Hitler > Beyonce.

Mrluvaluva 25-02-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 3031523)
She cant be brilliant at everything.


Very true. So why does she feel the need to pay to have her name in credits etc? It's deception really.

Tom 25-02-2010 09:54 PM

Beyonce is amazing. The songs would be nothing without her regardless of who written them

You could say that anyone who has a song written for them is deceiving their fans by calling it their song.

Mrluvaluva 25-02-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3032073)
Beyonce is amazing. The songs would be nothing without her regardless of who written them

You could say that anyone who has a song written for them is deceiving their fans by calling it their song.


I just don't see the need to do it.

Tom 25-02-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 3032109)
I just don't see the need to do it.

The entertainment industry is a dog eat dog world. From film to TV to music, everyone copies ideas from somewhere else. You have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise.

\PJ/ 25-02-2010 10:11 PM

true words from tom i don't care anyway she amazing and she is an amazing performer and does songs ALOT of justice

Mrluvaluva 25-02-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3032128)
The entertainment industry is a dog eat dog world. From film to TV to music, everyone copies ideas from somewhere else. You have to be pretty naive to believe otherwise.

Yeah I know that as I am not naive thanks. Doesn't make it right though does it?

Tom 25-02-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva (Post 3032148)
Yeah I know that as I am not naive thanks. Doesn't make it right though does it?

Well that makes 99% of singers/groups/producers wrong. If you're going to take the moral high ground it isn't just Beyonce at fault here. In fact far from it

If what she releases is good then its good and I'll listen to it. I don't care where its came from. If it sounds good that works for me.

andybigbro 25-02-2010 10:15 PM

Mark I thought you liked Beyonce, did not go to her concert?

MrGaryy 27-02-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 3032073)
Beyonce is amazing. The songs would be nothing without her regardless of who written them

You could say that anyone who has a song written for them is deceiving their fans by calling it their song.

thats completely ridiculous. Anyone who has a grasp of music knowledge knows someone like Britney didn't write her hits and not to mention the fact that songwriters choose to give their songs to her [just using her as an example]. The writers of some of Beyonce's biggest hits did not give their permission and Beyonce has lied to her fans and everyone saying that she wrote those songs.

this is why I can never listen to Beyonce love.

Firewire 27-02-2010 05:35 PM

I'll admit, I like some of her songs: Sweet Dreams, Single Ladies etc., But I'll never vote for her. She doesn't deserve the awards she wins.

andyman 27-02-2010 05:55 PM

Dog eat dog..

Tom 27-02-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGaryy (Post 3036607)
thats completely ridiculous. Anyone who has a grasp of music knowledge knows someone like Britney didn't write her hits and not to mention the fact that songwriters choose to give their songs to her [just using her as an example]. The writers of some of Beyonce's biggest hits did not give their permission and Beyonce has lied to her fans and everyone saying that she wrote those songs.

this is why I can never listen to Beyonce love.

Actually there are loads of artists who claim to write their own songs or at least don't give the impression that someone writes them for them. Likewise the other way around too.

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Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 3036611)
I'll admit, I like some of her songs: Sweet Dreams, Single Ladies etc., But I'll never vote for her. She doesn't deserve the awards she wins.

But I bet you think Britney does deserve the awards?

30stone 27-02-2010 06:53 PM

Never liked beyonce :)


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