The gay marriage debacle
 

Anyone else finding this ridiculous? He's a man of deep faith which is widely known to be against gay marriage and the other housemates are just using this as a reason to pick on him and make him look like a bad person. Since when is a person defined by their beliefs? He's shown absolutely no malice towards Mario, Corin, Govan or Shabby and never once voiced his disdain at homosexuality until pressured into voicing his beliefs by Josie in front of everyone. I'm finding the whole thing I a bit nasty to be quite honest.

Um, If I wanted to get married to a dude and it was up to him - he'd deny me and my boyfriend marriage. He's a cunt for that.

depends on how strongly he believes in it I guess. Ultimately he has very half-hearted beliefs in a wholeheartedly terrible religion.

are you telling me that if you were in a serious relationship with a man and planned to get married, you would go and ask a Catholic monk to marry you, even though you're fully aware of how homosexuality is perceived in the church?

I think it's a bit unfair on Dave to be picked up on that. He's absolutely cool with gay people being in the house; he's quite blatantly not homophobic - he's a Christian, of course he's going to disagree with gay marriage - I actually think he should be viewed in a positive light for being fine with gay people in spite of his religious beliefs.

No, I just said if it was up to him he'd deny me and my BF marriage.

Well you and your hypothetical boyfriend's marriage has very little to do with a Brummie in a Big Brothe rhouse.

Not him - the church denies you the right. He just has to abide by the law of the church.

Yep. Even Mario stood up for him and said he's not against it but in his capacity as a monk he is unable to perform the ceremony.

If it was up to HIM, he'd say no.

This, I don't really like him but it's obvious that he isn't homophobic and I don't really think he believes in that part of it really, he seemed a bit half hearted about it.

Yeah I'd say they're overreacting big time and just using it against him.

What they should be really annoyed about is his insufferable pontificating and bizarre bible reading sermons.

I agree with gay marriage as it is about loving someone but if Dave doesnt thats up to him and he is entitled to his opinion. If you were gay and wanted to marry then I am sure there are plenty of other people who would marry you. Just go to one of them.

Who could say?

He's only taken that stance because it's the law of the church, if it was fully upto him I don't think he'd mind really since it's obvious he isn't homophobic.

he is trying to walk a tight rope on the one hand he dont want to offend his faith on the other he dont wanna offend the voting public
personal i just think he should do what ever he thinks is right and bugger every one else you should always be true to your self

He'd really be in trouble with the church if he did that. :joker:

Josie brought it up so that she had an excuse to vote for him and unfortunately for him it is sticking to him as Ife used the same excuse this week.

I dont like Dave but I really went off Josie and my opinion of her has plummeted the more I see of her since then.

yep but sometimes it needs people on the inside of a organisation to say something is wrong to get change

It doesn't really bother me to be honest, I think he's trying to stay true to his beliefs but he is clearly not homophobic and doesn't mind sharring a bed with another man and out of all the religions out there ( not that I agree with any of them) Cristianity does tend to change with the times so it's only a matter of time before they allow gay marriage. Besides the Bible is full of gay sex it's just that it's used as punnishment in the bible.

PMSL What bible have you been reading? Did Moses assfuck pharoah into letting the Israelites go from Egypt?

I agree, just giving the housemates an easy nomination tbh.

LOL I believe it's in the book of Job if you wish to look it up

He's basically saying, though "You're my friend but sorry, I don't think you deserve the same rights I do".

No he's saying 'You're my friend, but the religion I follow does not grant you the same rights as I have' - not about his personal opinion and nothing about whether or not gays should have the same rights.

Can't believe housemates are still going on about it, Big Brother should stop them from using it as a reason to nominate Dave.