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nanaimo 02-11-2010 08:47 AM

Simons gone mental
 
What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

fruit_cake 02-11-2010 08:51 AM

'look'... Simon lost all his credibility when he kept Jedward over Lucie

crap last year.. even crapper this year..

nanaimo 02-11-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fruit_cake (Post 3886370)
'look'... Simon lost all his credibility when he kept Jedward over Lucie

crap last year.. even crapper this year..

Totally agree

joeysteele 02-11-2010 09:31 AM

He has also cooled his support for Aiden too and that is likely because Ms Cole is really getting at Aiden now too. Simon although he gets his digs at Cheryl in parts, he is well aware of the controversy as to her choices this year.

I am near sure the wild cards were done to save face for Cheryl.but then Gamu could not be in the shows anyway. Since then he has backed to the hilt her choice of Cher and every week except for this week,I have near reached for the sick bucket at his overhyping of Cher.

I too am tired of the liked you last week, loved you this week quote, its like he has lost his originality this year and I suspect it is partly to keep Ms Cole happier.No one else.

joeysteele 02-11-2010 09:32 AM

Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.

Lee. 02-11-2010 09:37 AM

I completely agree with you OP.. Simon, to me has always been the speaker of sense, and I've always said, whether people like it or not, his opinion is usually bang on. But he is getting repetitive with his comments and I just CANNOT believe he told Cher that not only did she do the best performance of the night, but of "the whole season"??!! WTF? I don't think so Simon!
I actually don'tknow what he's playing at where Cher's concerned. I suspect after all the bad publicity regarding her mental health during Bootcamp etc, he did'nt want a Susan Boyle type breakdown again, plus the media circus to go along with it.. I think he's just trying to keep her sweet. (Probably Cheryl aswell)

Tom4784 02-11-2010 09:39 AM

I think it was one of the best performances of the series so far, She's far from the best singer but she went against everyone's expectations and hit it out of the park, she's got stage presence and that's something that can't be taught. It'll be her or Rebecca who wins it I think.

As for simon he's been playing a character for years, I don't really take him seriously.

Niamh. 02-11-2010 09:49 AM

I agree with everything you said OP. Yes she was good last week, I think the reason I liked it so much was because she wasn't utterly crap as usual but as you said Rebecca was a league ahead of her. I no longer listen to anything Simon says, tbh Dannii and even Louis are more honest than he is at this stage.

Tom4784 02-11-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3886405)
I agree with everything you said OP. Yes she was good last week, I think the reason I liked it so much was because she wasn't utterly crap as usual but as you said Rebecca was a league ahead of her. I no longer listen to anything Simon says, tbh Dannii and even Louis are more honest than he is at this stage.

I think Louis is the worst judge, I think it's high tiem to get rid of him now. All he does is make cringy and predictable digs at the other judges.

Niamh. 02-11-2010 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 3886406)
I think Louis is the worst judge, I think it's high tiem to get rid of him now. All he does is make cringy and predictable digs at the other judges.

They are cringy but they make me laugh!! Plus as cringy as they may be they're usually pretty spot on

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3886394)
Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.

correct


it is about demand and interest. No one wants to read a story about Lucie. fact.

fruit_cake 02-11-2010 10:25 AM

I'm not sure $imon has to do anything keep Cheryl sweet.. she's in luvvv and has him right in her sights already IMO.. I reckon he is trying to keep her sweet with CHERyl junior though... It's like one big happy CHERyl family already :joker:

nanaimo 02-11-2010 11:10 AM

aiden should not smile or pounce around the stage with gimmicks, thats not the kind of performer he is, maybe he is too indie for xfactor, but i guess michael stipe or jim morrison would have never got through the audition stage and i am not comparing them to aiden just intense performances, as i am on it Cherly did compare one direction to the beatles and aiden to elvis, cheryl **** and go read an Encyclopedia of rock because you don't have a clue .....

Kazanne 02-11-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanaimo (Post 3886367)
What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

I like Simon and really trust his judging BUT that remark did make me think "EH,what's the matter with him"He does seem as though he really doesn't care this year,but that is probably understandable because people are spiteful and want to sabotage the X Factor this year (with the campaign for Wagner to win)and last year(Interfering with the Xfactor no 1),so maybe he has just given up and goes with the flow.

Kazanne 02-11-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyland (Post 3886397)
I completely agree with you OP.. Simon, to me has always been the speaker of sense, and I've always said, whether people like it or not, his opinion is usually bang on. But he is getting repetitive with his comments and I just CANNOT believe he told Cher that not only did she do the best performance of the night, but of "the whole season"??!! WTF? I don't think so Simon!
I actually don'tknow what he's playing at where Cher's concerned. I suspect after all the bad publicity regarding her mental health during Bootcamp etc, he did'nt want a Susan Boyle type breakdown again, plus the media circus to go along with it.. I think he's just trying to keep her sweet. (Probably Cheryl aswell)

Exactly my thoughts Happyland,he's probably given up a bit as these campaigns are just out to ruin the show,shame people are so spiteful just to prove the power of the vote,I can understand him,but I want the old Simon back.lol.

Kazanne 02-11-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3886393)
He has also cooled his support for Aiden too and that is likely because Ms Cole is really getting at Aiden now too. Simon although he gets his digs at Cheryl in parts, he is well aware of the controversy as to her choices this year.

I am near sure the wild cards were done to save face for Cheryl.but then Gamu could not be in the shows anyway. Since then he has backed to the hilt her choice of Cher and every week except for this week,I have near reached for the sick bucket at his overhyping of Cher.

I too am tired of the liked you last week, loved you this week quote, its like he has lost his originality this year and I suspect it is partly to keep Ms Cole happier.No one else.

I think he's just peed off with it all Joey,and I can undersatnd him really,the campaigns don't help at all.

Lee. 02-11-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3886450)
Exactly my thoughts Happyland,he's probably given up a bit as these campaigns are just out to ruin the show,shame people are so spiteful just to prove the power of the vote,I can understand him,but I want the old Simon back.lol.

He's still a sexpot though... :blush:

ElProximo 02-11-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanaimo (Post 3886367)
What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.

OP you are bang-on.

Over the last few years Simon has been a bit softer but that is not the problem here. He can be 'soft' but still tell the hard truth, be accurate and break the bad news.

No, this problem is something else. This is Simon seeing (correctly) a perfect recording artist payday in Cher. A perfect teen-pop hit-maker using a studio and some audio-engineering wizards and some slick music videos.
OK.
But instead of Simon (as we knew him) just blatantly stating this upfront we get Simon trying to convince us that she is truly magnificent and good in her own right in this competition.
Ugh.
Honestly, IF Simon just said all this outright "Cher, you are not great live on-stage but I hope you stay because you are a perfect recording artist" OK then!
I mean I'd respect Simon for just saying that and think it would actually bolster Cher.

But instead we all have to pretend along with this?
Like we don't know or what?

I WOULD expect this from the other judges but always Simon was the 'reality check' and balance.
Now what?

Stephanie 02-11-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 3886394)
Well, JEDWARD are still massively in demand but where's Lucie,he made the right choice then.

lucie is mainly modelling now, she got signed by a good agency.

joeysteele 02-11-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephanie (Post 3886478)
lucie is mainly modelling now, she got signed by a good agency.

Well great, if she no longer wants to be in the entertainment industry so has given up on that idea for modelling, fine, but its hardly comparable to the massive interest still in JEDWARD in the entertainment industry is it?

So to the choice of Simon choosing JEDWARD or Lucie, it is clear,especially from your post too, that he made the right choice then to save JEDWARD over her.

joeysteele 02-11-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 3886451)
I think he's just peed off with it all Joey,and I can undersatnd him really,the campaigns don't help at all.

I have to agree, I always believed he knew what he was talking about and still do, but he does seem very pre-occupied this year,maybe for the reasons you state too.

robb 02-11-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanaimo (Post 3886367)
What has happened to Simon, "The best performance of the season" and no he wasn't talking about Rebbeca but the mediocre Cher, not bad but not great either, seems to be the pet of the X factor this year.
Another ole chestnut of simons this year is "liked you last week, loved you this week" the man is getting very predictable, i used to value his opinion and he often said what was going through my head about performances but not anymore, he is starting to annoy me.
The talent on the show never get the comments mini-cheryl gets which in my opinion is unfair and pure favourtism and blatant favourtism by Cheryl, will Cher the chav be known in 10 years i think not, will Rebecca, a good chance yes.
It's time the judges were fair and tell it how it is and forget the sniff of money all the time and one more thing treat all guests equally, that was really rude of danni and cheryl.

Agree with most of the above, and just to add that Katie and Cher are nearly always on at the END OF THE SHOW. How is that fair? Would Cowell have reacted so positively if they had gone on , say 4th and 5th? Like Rebecca and Treyc had to? So far, Becky has been first girl on 3 weeks out of 4. And Treyc was first up in the other week!! What's the betting that KATIE will be in the last 3 to perform again on Saturday?? It's cheating the others out of a fair go...... :nono:

robb 02-11-2010 12:26 PM

To be fair, I did think that Cher was better this week. But this 'best thing since sliced bread' routine by Cowell is ridiculous.

Niamh. 02-11-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robb (Post 3886503)
Agree with most of the above, and just to add that Katie and Cher are nearly always on at the END OF THE SHOW. How is that fair? Would Cowell have reacted so positively if they had gone on , say 4th and 5th? Like Rebecca and Treyc had to? So far, Becky has been first girl on 3 weeks out of 4. And Treyc was first up in the other week!! What's the betting that KATIE will be in the last 3 to perform again on Saturday?? It's cheating the others out of a fair go...... :nono:

absolutely agree with this, it's very unfair and blatant favouritism/fixing.

Jordan. 02-11-2010 12:41 PM

People forget that Simon knows what he is talking about. He knows who will sell records and who wouldn't its not just about who has the best vocals anymore.


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