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vesavius 24-10-2011 11:27 AM

How do Aaron fans reconcile Aaron's VT and audition tapes with what's in the house?
 
Is it by just accepting that the bumbling nerd persona is 100% constructed and designed to fool others into believing he is something that he obviously isn't?

Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?

Not a flame, genuinly interested in how people rationalise the Aaron that he is pretending to be with the real one that obviously lies underneath.

Josy 24-10-2011 11:28 AM

I don't think he is pretending to be anything, and there was also nothing on his VT to prove that he was anything different to the way he's been in the house since day 1.

alex_front2 24-10-2011 11:28 AM

I reconcile by the fact he told us in his launch night VT that he's bit of a game player and he mentioned this in week 1 - hence his boos when he entered the house. Aaron's always been careful in what he says. On about day 9 Faye (who I suspect fancied him back then) question him about dating and he did say he has no problem getting women, he just doesn't do one night stands.

Cleverly he's not gone on and on about his game playing to the viewers so the game player tag went to Anton. If Aaron's caught game playing more obviously we can't say 'Oh look the mask has slipped' as he told us he wasn't going to be 100% truthful in first place. Good game play from him.

Cherie 24-10-2011 11:29 AM

I believe he is playing an excellent game, and he is mixing it up and making a good show....i have said it before and I will say it again. Im sick of FENCE SITTERS winning BB simply by going in and being nice to everyone, then coming out and never seeing any of their fellow HMs ever again....

crocs 24-10-2011 11:30 AM

In the same way we reconcile other housemates' VTs. The rest are not exactly like their VTs. I think the VTs should be disregarded at all times because they don't reflect the truth.

vesavius 24-10-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 4681726)
I don't think he is pretending to be anything

Except the people that are living with him seem to think differently.

Cover blown tbh.

I guess by your answer you fall more into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category.

Tourmaline 24-10-2011 11:31 AM

I love easy questions me :blush:

Answer: The exact same way we reconcile all other audition tapes which are just made to set them apart from the other 1000s of entries. What we see in the BB House is the REAL person because there's no way they can keep up a false persona for any great length of time :hugesmile:

vesavius 24-10-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4681738)
What we see in the BB House is the REAL person because there's no way they can keep up a false persona for any great length of time :hugesmile:

Actually, it's possible to maintain false appearences and constructed personalities all your life, let alone the time in that house.

It's actually very common.

Samuel. 24-10-2011 11:34 AM

Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

vesavius 24-10-2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4681742)
Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

Erm... he really wasn't.

Vicky. 24-10-2011 11:36 AM

I dont actually think his VT was much different from how he has been in the house. Maybe a little more arrogant, but you have to sell yourself to get in. The only part that was questionable really was the ladies man part, but you can be a ladies man without being a *****.

Infact I would say he's one of the few who has actually remained pretty true to their VT :laugh:

Tourmaline 24-10-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4681740)
Actually, it's possible to maintain false appearences and constructed personalities all your life, let alone the time in that house.

It's actually very common.

Then the false appearance and the constructed personality becomes integrated into who we actually are so therefore it is REAL

alex_front2 24-10-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4681742)
Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

No, Aaron was very very confident on his VT and no way near as geeky or camp as he's in the house. It's the same with his launch night intro. He didn't seem camp or geeky in that and i was shocked at how camp he was when he entered the house.

For the first 2-5 days Aaron went into the DR and told us about his 'game' but he gave up after that when he went for love action with Faye

MTVN 24-10-2011 11:42 AM

I think he was the most different in his VT out of the four of them that had theirs shown but it still wasn't that dissimilar to how he is in there

LivT 24-10-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crocs (Post 4681733)
In the same way we reconcile other housemates' VTs. The rest are not exactly like their VTs. I think the VTs should be disregarded at all times because they don't reflect the truth.

I agree with Crocs sentiments. The VT's don't serve a purpose other than a means to an end. It is a selling point, and like any advertisement, it doesn't always do what it says on the packet!

Samuel. 24-10-2011 11:44 AM



1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

vesavius 24-10-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4681750)
Then the false appearance and the constructed personality becomes integrated into who we actually are so therefore it is REAL

No Tour, thats not right at all. It is false, by definition.

The fact that Aaron has obviously adopted the bumbling Hugh Grant nervous gent persona to go into that house with, the one so at odds with the man who auditioned and the man who plays the house and public with such confidence, is obviously being furiously rationalised by his supporters here, but the fact remains the man we are seeing is obviously not the man that exists in the real world.

But then he has tried to get in 4 times and studied this game, so I guess he knows which personality type the public will best respond to.

Kazanne 24-10-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4681772)


1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

Yes agree,Faye's needs to be looked at,hers was much worse!:xyxwave:

vesavius 24-10-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel. (Post 4681772)
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1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

I don't disagree with any of this, and I conceed willingly that he is a skilled games player, that's not what I am asking.

I am asking how you reconcile the confident alpha (because alphas are not always muscle bound bufoons in society, in fact they mostly aren't) in those tapes with the bumbling Hugh Grant gent he has pretended.

Tourmaline 24-10-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4681773)
No Tour, thats not right at all. It is false, by definition.

The fact that Aaron has obviously adopted the bumbling Hugh Grant nervous gent persona to go into that house with, the one so at odds with the man who auditioned and the man who plays the house and public with such confidence, is obviously being furiously rationalised by his supporters here, but the fact remains the man we are seeing is obviously not the man that exists in the real world.

But then he has tried to get in 4 times and studied this game, so I guess he knows which personality type the public will best respond to.

Vesavius.....the audition tapes are a one minute long snapshot designed purely to sell themselves as a means of getting into the house....thats all. Weigh that one minute against all the hundreds of hours he has spent in there.

Vicky. 24-10-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4681783)
I am asking how you reconcile the confident alpha (because alphas are not always muscle bound bufoons in society, in fact they mostly aren't) in those tapes with the bumbling Hugh Grant gent he has pretended.

Because a minute of selling yourself(Harry I think it was..pointed out that the snippet they showed was after a 'describe yourself in 60 seconds' question)...is the same as hours and hours of real life footage?

Its a bit like a job interview. You do your best to get the job, even if this means acting a bit more like how you think they want you to act, than yourself.

vesavius 24-10-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4681792)
Vesavius.....the audition tapes are a one minute long snapshot designed purely to sell themselves as a means of getting into the house....thats all. Weigh that one minute against all the hundreds of hours he has spent in there.

So you reconcile it by denial that the Aaron you don't like is the false one, and the one you do like is the true one?


And, like I say, it IS more then possible (and actually very common) to live under a constructed false personality for extended periods, especially when that personality is built around regularly removing yourself from the social group. The popular thought that no one can do this is pretty much a myth.

Tourmaline 24-10-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4681810)
So you reconcile it by denial that the Aaron you don't like is the false one, and the one you do like is the true one?


And, like I say, it IS more then possible (and actually very common) to live under a constructed false personality for extended periods, especially when that personality is built around regularly removing yourself from the social group. The popular thought that no one can do this is pretty much a myth.

I like Aaron.....I didn't find his VT to be that dissimilar to who he is in the house. Who said anything about disliking the "false" one? You are the one that's decided the REAL Aaron is the one in his VT when IMO they are both the same :conf:

vesavius 24-10-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 4681857)
I like Aaron.....I didn't find his VT to be that dissimilar to who he is in the house. Who said anything about disliking the "false" one? You are the one that's decided the REAL Aaron is the one in his VT when IMO they are both the same :conf:


I guess then you also fall into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category

Tourmaline 24-10-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4681860)
I guess then you also fall into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category

Except that I don't like Hugh Grant and never have :hugesmile:


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