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vesavius 05-11-2011 01:21 PM

The balance of negative 'bias' and not being shown at all
 
Look, all you folks constantly crying about how Aaron is 'hated' and how 'biased' the BB team is and how Aaron gets a 'bad edit'... Try and think a little about it.

Has it not occured to you that if BB didn't include Aaron's negative behaviour in the main show, or talk about it on BOTS, and focused on his positive side that he would have received maybe 10% of the camera time he has and wouldn't be the HM you apparently love.

In fact, you fans would probably not be fans at all.. you would probably all be saying, 'yeah, he is a nice guy, but he hasn't done much...'

Aaron has THRIVED of the 'negative' coverage of his behaviour BB have given him, appealing to the viewer's sense of 'injustice' and supposed victimisation. It has been GOOD for him.

Aaron, if BB ignored his game plans, manipulations, and conflicts, would be at best just another Freddy. A 'nice guy' only supported because he was 'bullied'.

MTVN 05-11-2011 01:24 PM

Big Brother love Aaron, the show's pretty much revolved around him this year

vesavius 05-11-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4721689)
Big Brother love Aaron, the show's pretty much revolved around him this year

I believe that as well.

Cherie 05-11-2011 01:29 PM

I hope you are right...but it is a good point I will give you that.

vesavius 05-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 4721709)
I hope you are right...but it is a good point I will give you that.

/falls over :joker:

Lozzibear 05-11-2011 03:07 PM

What annoys me though, is that bad stuff from other people isn't show... example, Jay and the freezer! The whole Aaron being blamed for the failure of the snow rescue task, when Anton was meant to rescue him coz he needed painkillers but they cut that bit out. Not showing 'watergate' in the HL show but showing a silly argument between Aaron and Faye over the burping... That is why it is biased, not because they show bad stuff, but because they show things he does but miss other important things that can make other certain housemates look bad.

Objectivegirl 05-11-2011 03:15 PM

I'd still rather have been able to make my own mind up about it though. Don't like someone else deciding what I am allowed to see and then letting me make up my mind on that narrow basis.
Cits both ways and this applies to the other HMs as well. We know from (unscripted) conversations on BBBOTS that some pretty contentious stuff from other HMs has been kept back from public consumption. Why?
Without live feed, BB is a sham of its former self and will play a very minor role (if any) in future ratings games.

Cherie 05-11-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4721940)
/falls over :joker:

:devil::joker:

Kazanne 05-11-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lozzibear (Post 4722021)
What annoys me though, is that bad stuff from other people isn't show... example, Jay and the freezer! The whole Aaron being blamed for the failure of the snow rescue task, when Anton was meant to rescue him coz he needed painkillers but they cut that bit out. Not showing 'watergate' in the HL show but showing a silly argument between Aaron and Faye over the burping... That is why it is biased, not because they show bad stuff, but because they show things he does but miss other important things that can make other certain housemates look bad.

THIS^would be ok IF they had shown the others shortcomings too

MTVN 05-11-2011 03:35 PM

They're always showing Jay doing disgusting stuff

Objectivegirl 05-11-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 4722078)
They're always showing Jay doing disgusting stuff

****ting in the freezer???

MrWong 05-11-2011 03:38 PM

They could concentrate on how quick witted he is. :elephant:

"Supposed victimisation"?

He's been called a pr!ck, a scumbag, a wank*r and an abusive husband on Sh!t On The Side. The main host told a fan he should be ashamed of himself for being a fan of Aaron and on OK!TV Jeff wotshisname keeps repeating ad nauseam that he hates Aaron.

The bias in the edit is only the tip of the iceberg.

You are also assuming that he's only positive 10% of the time. Which is ridiculous considering we only get to watch 45 mins of 24 hours.

Aaron was masterful in his secret task, so why did BB wait 9 weeks to give him one and instead dish out 2 or more to the likes of Tom, Jay and Alex.

I like Aaron because he's played the game well (Freddie didn't) I also like Aaron because he comes out with great one-liners (Freddie didn't)

DoM-h 05-11-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Objectivegirl (Post 4722081)
****ting in the freezer???

Haha. That was a good comeback

MrWong 05-11-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzibear (Post 4722021)
What annoys me though, is that bad stuff from other people isn't show... example, Jay and the freezer! The whole Aaron being blamed for the failure of the snow rescue task, when Anton was meant to rescue him coz he needed painkillers but they cut that bit out. Not showing 'watergate' in the HL show but showing a silly argument between Aaron and Faye over the burping... That is why it is biased, not because they show bad stuff, but because they show things he does but miss other important things that can make other certain housemates look bad.

They also cut out Louise throwing a ketchup bottle at Aaron's head. The edit made it look like he was only p!ssed off about the froisties all over the house.

MTVN 05-11-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Objectivegirl (Post 4722081)
****ting in the freezer???

Just because they don't show every disguting thing he does doesn't mean they don't show any of it

C5 even have their daily rag going on about it :idc: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/...isgusting-Jay/

BBfan6418 05-11-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DoM-h (Post 4722083)
Haha. That was a good comeback

Good comeback? Aaron fans have been using it since week 1.

vesavius 05-11-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4722088)
They also cut out Louise throwing a ketchup bottle at Aaron's head.

..and look at what people call Louise...

'Boring'.

That's the point being made.

Pyramid* 05-11-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 4722069)
THIS^would be ok IF they had shown the others shortcomings too

this.

I so love these constant barrage of Anti Arron threads cropping up. It's so funny - this forum will be a riot come next Friday - I hope they feed the gerbils.

Perhaps we should chip in for some extra energy food for the furry wee buggars, so they've got plenty of oomph to keep forum up and running! :D

MTVN 05-11-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BBfan6418 (Post 4722091)
Good comeback? Aaron fans have been using it since week 1.

:laugh:

Vicky. 05-11-2011 03:44 PM

Negative footage is fair enough. but its the way they have gone out of their way to twist things into always being Aaron in the wrong.

The stranded task is the prime example of this. They left the task room because of 2 things, one being Anton had AGREED(not shown on the HLs) to let Aaron out as he needed painkillers//then went back on his word just to spite Aaron/Faye, and the second being jem was going to walk out anyway because BB had upset her by revealing her real age(also not shown). After this, we had the conversation in the kitchen between Aaron and Jay...where Aaron said(on the FB clip) 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore because of my leg'...which on the HLs, became 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore'. Purposely cutting him off mid sentence. There is no reason at all to go to such lengths with the editing just to screw the whole story totally.

Pyramid* 05-11-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4722092)
..and look at what people call Louise...

'Boring'.

That's the point being made.

I think the connection you are failing to make is one that is of CONSISTENCY.

One or two random acts, outwith normal behaviour, doesn't justify her not being labelled boring. She is boring, and she is consistently boring.

Even some of the housemates were/ are /have been saying the same thing.

MrWong 05-11-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 4722092)
..and look at what people call Louise...

'Boring'.

That's the point being made.

You think showing her throwing a ketchup bottle at Aaron's head would mean she's not boring?

ButterflyGirl 05-11-2011 03:48 PM

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

MrWong 05-11-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4722099)
I think the connection you are failing to make is one that is of CONSISTENCY.

One or two random acts, outwith normal behaviour, doesn't justify her not being labelled boring. She is boring, and she is consistently boring.

Even some of the housemates were/ are /have been saying the same thing.

The only 2 to have live feed (Anton & Jay) called her boring too and Alex was the most boring according to them.

Pyramid* 05-11-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 4722098)
Negative footage is fair enough. but its the way they have gone out of their way to twist things into always being Aaron in the wrong.

The stranded task is the prime example of this. They left the task room because of 2 things, one being Anton had AGREED(not shown on the HLs) to let Aaron out as he needed painkillers//then went back on his word just to spite Aaron/Faye, and the second being jem was going to walk out anyway because BB had upset her by revealing her real age(also not shown). After this, we had the conversation in the kitchen between Aaron and Jay...where Aaron said(on the FB clip) 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore because of my leg'...which on the HLs, became 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore'. Purposely cutting him off mid sentence. There is no reason at all to go to such lengths with the editing just to screw the whole story totally.

and to use the same word again: BB have consistently been targetting Aaron with bad edits, manipulated to make him worse than he is - and conversely, the have consistently given Jay very good edits and hidden some of the most vile things - even to the point that housemates haven't even been allowed to discuss some of it - or rather - if they have, it's not been shown.


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