Fickle fans
 

I see people post this alot when someone changes their mind about who they like. Is it really fickleness or are these people more objective viewers and judge people by their actions in the house and from getting to know them better rather than stubbornly sticking by their chosen HM no matter what they say or do?

What do you think?

Nothing fickle about it.

I liked Charlie the most when she went in, now I am right off her.

I class myself as a fan of BB rather than any housemate.

I just don't understand the fanatical behaviour where people support someone whatever they do, and even worse, think it is okay to go into every post trying to blast other posters simply because t is not worshipping their chosen one. Find it and them a bit weird to be honest.

It really annoys me, can't stand it when suddenly members completely do a U-Turn on HM's because they say something about their favourite HM :bored:

lol if you go off an housemate you go off a housemate.. Its nothing major.
But if i wanted to stop supporting coach, Gina or Sam i would. No big deal lol

People do change their minds. The people who say things like 'oh X nominated X so I dont like them anymore' though, IMO never liked the person in the first place really.

I don't think it's fair to say people are band wagoning, they're the most popular HMs, someone has to be

I think it's definitely possible to 'go off' the people who you originally liked at the start. I always say I won't make favourites at the start because I usually go off some people (eg. this season I'm going off Gina and Jackie and went off Jemima) but I always do it :laugh:

Look let me give you an example. Alright.. Hmm. Dexter was the most hated housemate week 1 after sallie and arguably gina. Ok he was still unpopular until he went into the
Safehouse. Once he was in the safe house the whole world was on his side lmfao. And I didnt really understand that...
And also off subject abit, but i watched callum talking to Sam about dexters feelings and tbh for three whole weeks he went about telling everyone he liked hazel, then he comes out the safe house and *click* Charlie is who he likes.
But yeah their are alot of people who jump on bandwagons.

I guess it's human nature to make more excuses for HMs that you like and jump on things people you don't like do as well. I've found myself defending some things Hazel does that I might not in other HMs, I think it's more of a case of(as MTVN said earlier) me thinking all the hate she gets is way OTT for what she actually does in there

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That's an interesting question Niamh. I think it all depends on what you mean by fickle, but I totally see the issue. In my opinion, being fickle is more when you see absolutely no fault in your favourite housemate whatsoever. That doesn't mean that you don't continue to support them, but to put it into perspective - I think extremely highly of Callum and want him to win without a shadow of a doubt. That being said, I did criticize him when he nominated Wolfy as I thought it was quite weak of him conforming to the group like that by nominating one of his closest friends in the house. Fickle on the other hand would be, for example saying "Callum knows what he's doing, Wolfy is horrible", just because Callum is your favourite.

Without pointing any direct fingers, I would say Dexter fans seem to be the most fickle, in regards to how I defined fickle above. It seems as though Dexter can do no wrong and people like Callum who aren't very close to Dexter, are horrible at all costs. That to me, is fickle. But then again, its funny because I get that Dexter is sort of the troll housemate so of course, people who support him are going to troll a little as well, if that makes sense.

Finally, I think changing views on housemates definitely doesn't show being fickle, but at the same time doesn't necessarily incinuate maturity and and more of an objective viewpoint either. If anything, I think it highlights the fact that you haven't warmed to any particular housemate enough to want to persistently support them. I was very much like that last series switching back and fourth from Deana to Luke A to Luke S to Conor to Caroline. That didn't necessarily mean I was more objective, but moreso that none of them were really likeable enough for me to really want to dedicate myself to.

haha, that bandwagon claim happens every year, it's so annoying

Bandwagon

Jesus Christ
Sorry.

In all honesty the thing I can't stand the most is people seeing no negatives in the personality or actions of their favourite housemate. Obviously you aren't going to point out negative factors constantly regarding your favourite, but if a housemate I like does something which I feel is wrong, I'm more than happy to point that out. Take the other day for example: Daley and Callum both got stick for nominating 'their good friend' Dexter a few weeks back, but when Dexter nominated Gina the other day excuses were made and so on about why it wasn't a problem for him to do so. Examples like the above show fans being fickle, because why is the former terrible but the latter 100% okay?

Very true, and I feel as though Daley and Charlie barely got any stick for nominating Callum the first time that they did, although for me that was the turning point for both of them, at which I started to dislike them as housemates. And yeah agreed, Dexter nominating Gina came across very sneaky.

I still don't see what was so wrong about nominating Gina. I agreed with his reasons...even though I do think she genuinely misheard Daley.

The problem I had with Daleys(and Callums to a lesser extent) nomination of Dexter was the piss poor reasoning. 'Because I want to see you on the outside' or something..it came across as just following the herd despite having no reason to. But they can all nominate who they like.

I think Dexter got a lot of criticism for his bumlicking last night..both from fans and from people who never liked him. There are a couple of absolute fanatics for each housemate tbh, but most people will admit when their fave screws up

Exactly, I like Dexter and I think HM's should nominate who they feel comfortable with nominating, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make excuses for them.

No I don't either really, it's the fact that it's a rule for one HM and another rule for everybody else imo. Daley and Callum's reasoning was poor indeed, but one of the reasons they where criticised was for nominating their apparent friend, which is exactly what Dexter did (and it was assumed that both were very close). I haven't seen last nights show yet so I'll keep an eye out, and whilst many do admit when their favourite does wrong, there's the others that believe that their favourite can do no wrong imo.

Vicky, were you dissapointed in Daley and Charlie when they nominated Callum, and similarly when Callum nominated Wolfy?

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I think sticking determinedly to one housemate shows far less integrity, personally. Or rallying against one and making everything they do "evil" whilst ignoring the same actions in others or applauding them - e.g. Gina fans vilifying Hazel for pot stirring. Madness. Gina has had a bigger spoon than any of them and has done it with LESS regard for anyone but herself.

Using Gina as an example of people just sticking, too: I found her entertaining in the safehouse. Certainly not "a good person", but fun. WHAT has she done since then? Absolutely nothing. She's shown everything she's got to show and will be an utter bore until the end now, but still has massive support for no apparent reason. Like I said, it's not even like she's a nice person. She'd not bother to muster up a spit if you were on fire, darling.

I also agree that I tend to side with people when they're being attacked. Hazel might stir and be quite shrewd but I honestly think she's being genuine 70% of the time. She gets slated every time she speaks. it's not even just to support an underdog, the attacks and ridiculous claims often make me observe that person more closely and objectively and then I often find plenty to like.People seem to just make up their mind, and then not give people a chance. THAT is fickle... and bad for the show... because good characters go! Hazel has more to bring now than Gina but Gina will be there until the end.

No..I dont care who they nominate at all. Its when they use really poor reasons for doing so. And tbh I dont even remember Callum nominating Wolfy, or Daley nominating Callum. I totally understood Charlies reasons for nominating Callum though. But this week she was quite annoying, voting for him then going to stroke his knee and act all mushy :laugh:

Well I meant the notion of nominating their friends :p But fair enough, I guess it's all about consistency isn't it. I'd be disappointed in any housemates who were to nominate their friends, even if Hazel nominated Dan :laugh: