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Rob! 25-07-2015 06:14 PM

Where does the men shouldn't hit women argument fall in a situation like this?
 
Now, I don't condone violence, like at all. I couldn't hit a fly with a swat. But what about this?

http://youtu.be/Czb4rImsph0

Liam- 25-07-2015 06:20 PM

Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

Rob! 25-07-2015 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8026168)
Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

Exactly - and I think there are women (like the one in the video) that go around acting like that because they think that as far as men retorting are concerned, they feel invincible.
You can't go around acting like a dick without expecting some form of retaliation - and the guy couldn't exactly walk away, they were stuck in a tube train. A lot of the comments I've seen about this video say that the girl completely deserved it (whilst complimenting the guy on a fantastic slap :laugh: )

Ramsay 25-07-2015 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8026168)
Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

Pretty much this :clap1:

Ramsay 25-07-2015 06:26 PM

WHAT A SLAP though fucccccccc

Rob! 25-07-2015 07:18 PM

So apparently four of them were arrested - the man, the girl and two of the other blokes throwing punches.
The guy got off because the slap was in self defence. Apparently when she hits him over the head, it's with a stiletto.

Liam- 25-07-2015 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8026321)
So apparently four of them were arrested - the man, the girl and two of the other blokes throwing punches.
The guy got off because the slap was in self defence. Apparently when she hits him over the head, it's with a stiletto.

Yeah I heard it on The View, they all got charged with the same thing, but the '8 ball jacket guy' got let off :clap1:

Jack_ 25-07-2015 07:41 PM

screaming @ the guy at 1:36 :joker:

But yeah, if a woman hits you you have every right to hit them back. I'm a feminist and actually I think the notion that women are vulnerable and should never be hit is actually more demeaning and degrading to them than the protection argument. Violence is never the answer but if you give it, be prepared to take it back.

Ninastar 25-07-2015 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8026168)
Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

Preach it sista. I totally agree

user104658 25-07-2015 08:11 PM

What I do know, is that the guy in the background's reaction is fantastic.

Rob! 25-07-2015 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8026385)
screaming @ the guy at 1:36 :joker:

But yeah, if a woman hits you you have every right to hit them back. I'm a feminist and actually I think the notion that women are vulnerable and should never be hit is actually more demeaning and degrading to them than the protection argument. Violence is never the answer but if you give it, be prepared to take it back.

Completely agree. The girl in this video was fully expecting to get away with being a bitch because a) she was a woman and b) she had all her friends around her.
And yeah, making out that women are some delicate little flowers who should be treated with care and decorum at all times is absolutely absurd. There are women who could knock the living crap out of a lot of men without even trying.

smudgie 25-07-2015 10:45 PM

I feel sorry for men really.
I brought my son up not to hit a women, however I have told hm recently that if a female hits or attacks him he should give her a slap...rather than a punch.:shrug:

bots 25-07-2015 11:06 PM

The only option in this circumstance is to use appropriate force to nullify the threat being posed. That is such a difficult judgement and very dependent on the circumstances. Not knowing what her friends or she could do next makes it an almost impossible situation to deal with

Amy Jade 25-07-2015 11:07 PM

She deserved what she got, she hit him first with her shoe.

Kizzy 25-07-2015 11:12 PM

I feel I would be doing my son a disservice if I advised him to ever hit a woman, at 6'4 it wouldn't ever be looked on objectively by the police. Best to simply walk away, it's perhaps the most responsible reaction.

Ramsay 25-07-2015 11:35 PM

She won't be a cheeky bitch again so there's that, thankfully.

Black Dagger 26-07-2015 12:36 AM

The whole video in general is disgusting. Both are equally to blame and I don't like watching any of these public displays of violence.

Mystic Mock 26-07-2015 02:21 AM

If anyone (man, woman, or a new undiscovered gender) tries to attack you first then you have every right to fight them back, this whole women can hit men but men can't hit women back is a load of bollocks imo.

I'm also not one of them that will feel sorry for any woman crying either, they only deserve my sympathy if they actually was harshly treated and not just because they don't like the fact that a man called them out for being a twat, I say the same thing when it's role-reversed.

Mystic Mock 26-07-2015 02:21 AM

If anyone (man, woman, or a new undiscovered gender) tries to attack you first then you have every right to fight them back, this whole women can hit men but men can't hit women back is a load of bollocks imo.

I'm also not one of them that will feel sorry for any woman crying either, they only deserve my sympathy if they actually was harshly treated and not just because they don't like the fact that a man called them out for being a twat, I say the same thing when it's role-reversed.

Natalie. 26-07-2015 05:13 AM

If I hit anyone, male or female then I would expect to get hit back.

armand.kay 26-07-2015 05:18 AM

Literally a mix of the bad girls club and drag race, on a tube.

Anaesthesia 26-07-2015 08:04 PM

Bad as each other. She was spoiling for a fight.

Marsh. 26-07-2015 08:20 PM

The sound from that slap. :clap1:

Marsh. 26-07-2015 08:21 PM

I just love how they go on and on for a whole minute and then as soon as he cracks her one all hell breaks loose. :joker:

lostalex 27-07-2015 11:42 AM

i don't understand the debate. a girl half his size is getting beat on. she wasn't violent, her hands were always loose, she didn't have any weapons. any guy that feels threatened by that girl is a pathetic little bitch.

That guy should be in jail.


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